The KG question I'd rather not ask

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

sarah — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:12:15 GMT

um he's friends with antontio mcdyess - his comment after the game was, "wtf, - this is my friend, why am I fighting him?"

its really sad if you punch an actual friend of yours. thats him realizing his mistake, but antonio hit his teammate hard as well.

the other guys, he flat out doesn't like.

as for jose calderon - please with his racist incident at the olympics who cares? same goes with Bogut who basically called nba players thugs who like to buy big chains.......all nba players.

he gets into it with shaq, with perk when they weren't,teammates, with Amare, with his former teammates, with kobe, with paul pierce before being his teammate. sheed and him get into it, but are also good friends, and they actaully make a point to trash talk, because they know it helps them pump up for the game.

sheed seems to be the only one who gets into it with kg and actually likes it.

he flat out doesn't care if you aren't his teammate. and if you are his teammate and lazy, like wally, he'll let you have it.

i doubt he cares about his image, or he would have left minny years ago.

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

Brad Deltan — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:50:03 GMT

What? Is KG supposed to be the "magical negro" of the Celtics or something? Jeez, man...so what if he gets the hate on as long as he wins championships?

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re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

Devine — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:29:29 GMT

"The bottom line to that is...It is almost EVERY black in the world that HATE WHITES...and the sooner the ALL the white people make it known we are hated, insteed of acting stupid on the subject...WE CAN SEE THE END OF PEOPLE STARTING POST LIKE THIS ONE!!!"

And THIS is why it was the KG question that Adam would rather not have asked. Thanks for playing, Bean.

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

The Boston Bean — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:46:44 GMT

First off...It says KG's problem with white people may stem back 15 years ago when he was accused of being one of the black students that beat up a white student in a hallway.

"Jumping" a white person would not make you a racist...it would mean you already are a racist.

If that is what you meant, then ok I understand your point that this goes way back...and in that case, we all know that most racist do not just become racist one day...but have been brought up in a racist enviorment.

Most of us WILL NEVER ADMIT IT, but are racist to some degree. The differance...MOST keep that to themself, as a white person would never say something like, "who is that little black boy? He never plays" but in MOST situations on a basketball court, ( like if you are KG & in the NBA ) you can say ANYTHING like, " Who is the white boy?" or ANYTHING with the word "white" as they know they have all the backup they need to say & do as they feel.

Let's just face it...Blacks hate whites, & yes...there are whites that hate blacks, just as EVERY RACE has a % that are racists.

The bottom line to that is...It is almost EVERY black in the world that HATE WHITES...and the sooner the ALL the white people make it known we are hated, insteed of acting stupid on the subject...WE CAN SEE THE END OF PEOPLE STARTING POST LIKE THIS ONE!!!

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

JOHN — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:29:37 GMT

did anyone forgot the white man named MATT BONNER?

KG likes that guy.

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re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

Ben — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:37:59 GMT

I think you'll find the common demoniator in most of the incidents you mention isn't that the players involved are white, it's that they're pricks.

Wally Z, prick. Rickert, prick. Bogut... I'm an Aussie myself and can safely say he's a prick. Same goes for Ricket, who plays in the Australian league, who comes across as pretty arrogant both on the court and in the media. The incidents with Garnett were hardly the first or last that Wally and Bogut have been involved in either.

I don't consider the Calderon thing an incident, that was just a psych job that pumped up the Celtics team and the crowd. There wasn't much in the Pachulia one either IMO. Seems like you're reaching a bit to try and make a point.

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re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

Adam — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:04:18 GMT

Ryan, if you're thinking of the McDyess incident I'm thinking of, it involved KG backpedaling like crazy. Which makes it a reach to call it his most serious on-court incident.

And yeah, I *am* serious. I also raise the question as someone who's followed Garnett's career closely, and admired his game tremendously, ever since he first broke into the league.

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

Ryan — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:07:41 GMT

to eric montross.... why don't you post the rest of his thoughts?

"But over the three weeks I spent around the man in training camp, I developed a relatively deep respect for him. I qualify that respect only because I realize that three weeks doesn’t seem all that long. An experience like an NBA training camp is something of a pressure cooker, though, and teammates learn about one another’s character very quickly.

Kevin Garnett shares some of Bryant’s personality traits. He’s arrogant…but he realizes it. He can be insufferable…but he laughs about it. He’s intense…but he can turn it off."

I guarantee you that if Paul Shirley was a black man who KG had never met before, he would've said "I don't know who that n***** is. He doesn't get to play yet."

I don't see any bigotry behind the comments you posted.

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

Ryan — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:01:41 GMT

This is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. Are you serious with this?? Come on, you have to be kidding me.

KG's most serious on court incident was with Antonio McDyess. He regularly gets chippy with Amare. With Josh Howard. He got heated a couple times with Josh Smith in the playoffs last year.

He is an intense player, but when it comes to who he gets into it with, I guarantee he has blinders on when it comes to skin color.

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

mike m — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:58:36 GMT

as a boston transplant living in greenville, sc, i have a unique perspective regarding both boston fanhood and the racial tensions in both cities.

for the record, i am a celtics fan first, pats second, sox third. and yes, my friends and family treated me like i had a disease. especially when i watched every game on fsn new england and my best memory to show for my loyalty was the ECF game 3 against the nets; the comeback game with pierce, toine and rodney hitting all the free throws. it pains me to say this but i knew many people who derided my fanhood as "the reverse, why do you love a n***ah sport mohre than the sawks?"

whether you are black, white, or latino, none can truthfully deny the tensions of living in a place like west roxbury. all 3 groups despise the yuppies, out-of-state students, and suburban people from needham and the like more than each other. but at the schools, and i presume the blue collar work force (i left after 1 yr of college), it is very tense. when i first went to boston latin school there was a family of brothers who always hung out despite one being sophomore, one jr, one sr and taking me under their wing and saying "this school is dangerous, blacks and mexicans will knife you for your bookbag". i saw a lot of violence, robberies, etc. in high school

in greenville, i find it fascinating how backward race relations can be. i play pickup at the y but ironically i shoot around right at mauldin middleschool, and there are tiny homes with cars on blocks in their yards on my way there. and yet i saw "mccain/palin" signs on almost every yard. no amount of social conservatism, which i doubt anyway judging by the beer cans-in-the-yard to baptist church ratio, should entice these people to NOT vote for the candidate that fits their socio-status. it was amazing to hear "i wont vote for that n****r" in grocery stores and other public places, from people who cant afford health care!

in my experience, suburban mass (the majority of the people who end affording to see c's games) is extremely liberal, often to obnoxious levels. i knew a lot of black kids who got bused to schools in natick or wellesley and loved it, being treated well, hanging out in white/black circles, and getting scholarships through sports. but to me, downtown boston, at least places like westie, are like a battleground. i definitely see how it can earn a reputation for racism. and i most definitely see open racism all the time in kg's childhood community, which was probably worse when he was young. throw in his adopted chicago which is a tough, violent city as well.

i love kg, his help defense is almost always the correct decision. he sets screens, passes out of double teams, gets big dunks but defers to more complete offensive players in the 4th quarter (which he must do anyway because his adrenaline is out of control). his intensity is what got them out of those comeback games against la. ive seen 2 world series championships, 3 superbowls, and been to 4 parades in boston, but that title was my favorite ever. but its still an interesting question that adam poses.

i also wonder if it's odd that the celtics are one token white guy (the very boston-looking scal) from being an entirely black team, from coach down to gabe pruitt.

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

busterjonez — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:29:22 GMT

KG exhibits a classic bully profile. Witness his altercations with Antonio McDyess and Anthony Peeler. Peeler, who gives up a few pounds and half a foot, made KG back down really quickly just by standing up to him. And Garnett wanted absolutely nothing to do with McDyess after KG challenged him on the court. (Both events are youtube-able)

My guess is that KG feels like he can more easily push around white players for whatever reason. And so he bullies them without repercussion (witness the Calderon event).

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

eric montross — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:05:37 GMT

From Paul Shirley, on Deadspin.

"[Garnett's] first words to me weren’t even spoken to me—they were spoken around me, as I ventured onto the court for my first pre-preseason pickup game.

“I don’t know who that white boy is. He doesn’t get to play yet.”

It was not love at first sight."

re: The KG question I'd rather not ask

SpoonyBard — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:59:55 GMT

As I read through your list of incidents, what struck me was that Garnett takes his aggression out - not on white players - but on players who he's pretty sure won't fight back. Calderon is nearly a foot shorter, Duncan is mellow to the point of being asleep, and the rest are C or D-List players who know that they'll never come out on top in a scuffle with a superstar. Giving these guys the business allows KG to cultivate the image of a loose cannon without ever having to risk a serious fight.