Why the big drop of students in Central Falls?

re: Why the big drop of students in Central Falls?

joe bernstein — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:28:41 GMT

Yes you have and I wasn't discussing the border security issue.I just know a lot of pretty liberal people who are going to vote for Obama that don't like the fact that schools and hospitals have been stressed to a critical point by illegal aliens,and that the aliens are making a lot of demands which rubs people the wrong way.

An incident like that involving Marco Riz gets the attention of a broad cross seciton of the population.It is interesting that in a very Democratic state like RI the Governor's executive order got a 75% approval rating.

I notice that you do a lot of crossover with RIF,which you acknowledge,so no problem there,but they have a very activist viewpoint over there.As does Anchor Rising.For most people the issue of immigration is not one of liberal vs.conservative.

re: Why the big drop of students in Central Falls?

Ian Donnis — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:15:12 GMT

Joe, how many times have I said that secure borders in the post-9/11 age is a no-brainer?

re: Why the big drop of students in Central Falls?

joe bernstein — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:45:16 GMT

Ian-if you think "right wing activists"are the only people wanting better control of immigration,you are very mistaken.I know numerous liberals who are seriously concerned about criminal aliens and aliens voting.Maybe you are listening solely to people at RIF and PDD to get the pulse of what liberals think vis a vis immigration.Or at least listening to them disproportionately.

re: Why the big drop of students in Central Falls?

Will — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:55:38 GMT

I agree that people like Matt have served to greatly magnify whatever effect that the Governor's very limited Executive Order on ILLEGAL Immigration may have had.

Of course, we'd love to take as much credit as humanly possible, but that would likely not be supported by enough empirical data that we could know it for certain. Given the transience of the population in C.F. and other similar areas, I'm not sure we could ever be certain of any cause and effect.

I do happen to believe that much of the problem in Central Falls can be tied to the foreclosure "problem" (which is only a problem in so much that people cannot afford to pay back what they have borrowed). When landlords, especially those who do not live in the residence are foreclosed upon, the tenants often feel the negative effects more directly.

However, there are probably some families headed by one or two illegal alien parents who are feeling the heat and have voluntarily decided to get out of the kitchen. Adios!

The way I look at it, the more of them leave, the more money we save as taxpayers, so hopefully they will keep up the pace.

re: Why the big drop of students in Central Falls?

John Doe — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:43:49 GMT

So will the Central Falls teacher union give back some money since they'll have less work to do now?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

re: Why the big drop of students in Central Falls?

joe bernstein — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:38:18 GMT

How many of these students came from foreclosed homes?It seems like too high a number,especially in Central Falls,where the predominant mode of housing is the three decker,most owned by absentee landlords.

Unemployment is another story.People move to get jobs.There is really no way to empirically determine if the Governor's Executive Order caused an exodus of illegal aliens or not because such people don't normally repond to polls.

The effect of the Governor's order has been magnified by the very advocates who are so opposed to it.Including your friend Matt.The overheated response to a directive aimed at state employees,contractor employees,and CRIMINAL aliens has perhaps caused a panic response among some illegal aliens in the state.How ironic that people are fleeing Rhode Island thanks to the efforts of Rabbi Flam,Charley Bakst,Shana Kurland,the Hispanic advocates like Progreso Latino,Chispa,et al,and steven Brown(couldn't leave him out)and other assorted do gooders like Rev.Duane Clinker,Bishop Tobin-I could go on here.

There was never a plan to sweep up illegals en masse-can't be done anyway.I have no problem if they left out of misplaced fear.They weren't supposed to be in the USA to begin with.