What do you suggest be done to bring up the percentage of women going into the trades at present?
One could enforce the policies that already exist, that would be a huge step forward. Any developer or owner that's doing a development project can do their own affirmative action on their site, affirmative hiring and monitoring. There's a lot of people who could play a significant role. So that would make a big difference.

Obviously you need to bring a significant percentage of women into apprenticeship classes and training programs to shift the numbers and that's not happening. I think that supporting young women who are in vocational technical schools would also be a great thing. There seems to be a lot of interest from their teachers and counselors to do that. So that's very encouraging...

The original guidelines were very expansive...it's much more about the follow-through. [We need] to make sure women get full training, so they can graduate at junior level and be capable mechanics; and make sure there's not discrimination in hiring on jobs, so that women really do have the same employment experiences. Construction work goes up and down — that's a problem for everybody — but you want it to be equally a problem for people.

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