JOE Uhh . . . Joel describes himself as being, what, a thug fag?

JOEL At one point I might have said that.

JOE (He's there) in case I slip up and say "fag" a lot.

KURT Well, it comes across on camera, the rapport. (Joel's) super animated, and (Joe) only gets animated when he's around. And it was easy to make an episode with the two of them.

ALEX If there are a lot of people around, Joe will just perform generally, for those people. But when Joel's around, they're performing for each other. It works really well.

SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THIS SHOW YOU'RE MEETING A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AND GETTING INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEW SITUATIONS.

ALEX For sure. New adult situations.

HOW HAS THAT BEEN DIFFERENT FROM WRITING THE BLOG?

JOE It's like night and day. The blog was not as easy at I'd thought it would be. I (did) these things that involve lots of destructive, memory-crushing activities and would have to take notes the whole time. Then I'd have to go back and write about it and edit it. This is different.

KURT Yeah, you do less work.

JOE I do less work!

ALEX No. I think the intentions are clearly very different. The blog is like having a big time and then writing a narrative about the big time, and the show is essentially using food as an opportunity to tell a story about the location and the people.

THE SHOW IS A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE. THE BLOG READS AS THOUGH IT'S YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE . . .

JOE Really the blog was for me. I wasn't trying to make any money off the blog. It randomly brought me a lot of opportunities and got me into a lot of great situations, whereas with the show, this is a business now, and therefore we need to actually worry about who we appeal to because of you know, things like sponsors, and the fact that it's a show. We want it to progress and how you progress with a show is you . . .

ALEX. . . well, it's more we worry who we don't repel. It's less about appealing and more about repelling.

SO HAS THAT CHANGED YOUR PERSONALITY A LITTLE BIT? OR THE WAY YOU APPROACH . . .

JOE No.

ALEX The huge difference between the blog and the show is that the show is really now four different voices. It's Kurt's structural narrative voice, obviously Joel and Joe's voices on camera, and my very neurotic, idiosyncratic voice.

JOE That's putting it mildly.

ALEX I think the Fort Kent episode is — I think we would probably all agree — is the first time we really nailed every perspective.

JOEL Yeah.

JOE The whole point is figuring out what the show is. What are we trying to achieve with the show, what percentage of whatever kind of content . . .

JOEL Well, you look at that first show and it all took place in eating establishments and it was so much about the food.

JOE In Lewiston (the fourth show), we went to like eight different places and had this crazy agenda . . .

JOEL. . . and the best footage was all the little in-between stuff.

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