BOB TEWKSBURY: Well, for me, a low-pitch game was around a 100 or 105 pitches. Kinda like a round of golf. [laughter] So I equated it to that. And usually, if I was up past 105 pitches, nothing good was happening. And, like Bronson said, I had to pitch efficiently and I wanted the guys to have to put the ball in play. I think I did that really well. [Crowd laughs]. Yeah, they had a lot of [people] laughing back there. They're like, "Yeah, you did. They got a hit an inning off of you." And I'm like, "I know, I know. Check out the ERA." But, I think, going along with what Curt and Bronson said, from a psychological perspective, there's some development that doesn't take place because of pitch counts. I think everyone here would agree that it's not a perfect science, but there are times in a game that you can't replicate for development and that's pitching in the sixth inning with men on base; that's pitching in the seventh inning in a one-run game; that's pitching with a tying run on third, late in the game. And I think that, like Curt, I came up in a time when we were allowed to do that, and I think that that helped me when I got to the big leagues, to be able to work through those times that I needed to. And now, as a result of the protection and the physical restrictions which, rightfully so, are put on, there's sort of governor on the mental aspects of development that can really be evident in some of the games where guys pitch and are looking to the bull-pen in the sixth inning or they just feel like they've had enough and are out of the game late in the game.

CS: I would add to that you don't want your young pitchers to learn how to pitch with a runner on third in the eighth inning, with two outs, in the big leagues. And a lot of the time, that's what's happening, because look at these guys that can't get passed the third or fourth innings because they're pitch counts won't allow them to, I'll add to that something that I'm sure Theo was on the cutting edge of, which was monitoring your pitchers in the minor leagues because there is so much money invested in these kids. These kids are being paid tens of millions of dollars, and they're as far away from being in the top tier of sport as any of the professional sports, and no body wants to be that guy in the minor leagues; no body wants to be the guy that was the reason Stephen Strasberg — And I think there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. And this organization, when I was here, watching in spring training and hearing the mentality that was being taught, they wanted their kids to go deep and they wanted them to understand the efficiency of great at-bats. Power pitcher or not, a three pitch at bat is what you shoot for. On or out in three pitches. And that's the mentality when you start it early in the minor leagues, it carries over, and you do have games when you're pitching in the ninth inning in A-ball. That's a rarity nowadays. And that wasn't, certainly back when he was coming up, because there were fewer teams and so many kids in the minor leagues. It was a war of attrition. 'If he burned out, we got ten more like him than A-ball.' And it's changed.

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