CS: I got lucky, I also got lucky. I literally came in on the leading edge of the new generation of shoulder-elbow guys. And the gentlemen that fixed me the first time, Dr. Greg Morgan — it was funny because I was pitching against Tewks after he came back, and he's one of those — when I look at the people who are responsible for me, the evolution of me on the field as a pitcher, he was absolutely one of those guys that I looked to because I was watching a guy — and I say this with all due respect, and pitchers are the only ones who can truly respect this — I'm watching this guy throw the ball 82 miles an hour. And he is making big league hitters look stupid. And he was one of the premier guys of the national league when I was a young pitcher. And he, you know, that whole 'couldn't break a pane of glass,' — you know, he was a power guy before his surgery. And it was a tough time, medical things were changing, he came back as a finesse guy, he was twice as good a pitcher as I would have ever been with the stuff he had — but he did it for a long time. And that was one of those guys that taught me, one of the first lessons I ever had — that velocity was down the scale of importance and priority of the things you needed to have as a pitcher. But as far as coming back from surgery, I was lucky. I had trainers in multiple clubs who were invested in me as a person, much more so than as the player, and I came back from surgery — I threw 92-93 before my first and I was a 95-98 guy after that and 95 to 98 after my second surgery and it had everything to do with the doctor and the guys in the clubhouse that brought me back and rehabbed me.

PG: I just want to know one time what it's like to throw 95 or 98. [crowd laughs] Just one game, if I had a wish, it would be that I could go and pitch a big league game with your stuff.

CS: And I wanted to know what it was like to be able to throw 82 and get the same result. [crowd laughs] It would take a whole lot less effort. [more laughter]

PG: There's a saying that anyone can pitch at 95, 98, it takes a lot of courage to throw at 82.

CS: Then you go to Tim Wakefield at 65.

JF: You know Peter though one of the things that's kind of challenging right now is that in every minor league ballpark there's the radar gun on the scoreboard. And if you hear what's being said here is that pitching and effective pitching is disrupting hitter's time. Well, a young pitcher who's got his ego attached to that number that flashes up on the velocity is working counter against what efficient pitching is. And that's changing speeds, locating his pitches, disrupting the hitter's timing, in that they see the velocity on the scoreboard and they think, 'Well the only way for me to get to the big leagues or get noticed is if I'm 93 to 96.' Well, there's living examples that, you know, that's not necessarily the case. Realizing it's part of the fan experience and it's interesting to hear what guys or to see what guys are throwing, but at the same time they get attached to that number and they lose all sight of what really the craft and the art is about.

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