For Ninja, another crucial moment in the development of Die Antwoord came when he was reading a book on samurai philosophy and ran across the phrase "Become the enemy." "I read that, and I thought, 'What the fuck does that mean?' But I thought about it — and all the musical projects I had done before. None of them were, like, super-brave. And it was because I hadn't become the enemy yet. I was a victim, at that point. Because in order to become Ninja, I had to become a master of reality and become the enemy — and it was pop music that was, ultimately, the enemy I had to become. I mean, pop music is in control of the whole world, and the retards are winning." He pauses, then adds, "Not anymore, though. Die Antwoord are here."

DIE ANTWOORD | Royale, 270 Tremont St, Boston | October 26 at 7 pm | 18+ | $28 doors | 617.866.8963 or

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