
Sunday, June 29, 2008
Turkish-German
director Fatih Akin’s most recent films, the frenetic, punkish "Head-On" (no, you don't rub it directly on your forehead) and the more
meditative and consoling "The Edge of Heaven," have at least two things in
common: characters go to Turkey,
and they don’t come back — usually for unfortunate reasons. So I was worried
when the first attempt to get in touch with Akin, who was vacationing in Turkey, was
unsuccessful. The publicist gave me a song and dance about Akin’s two year-old child
crying and how he'd have to receive the call the next day at the office of somebody
or something. It sounded a little bit like a rough draft of a Fatih Akin
movie. So I was relieved to make the connection the next day.
PK:So you’re in Turkey.
Are you at the same beach as the one at the end of “The Edge of Heaven?”
FA: No. I am on the west
coast. never been here before on vacation here. I’ve got another week of
vacation
PK: I heard your two-year-old wasn’t happy with you doing the
interview yesterday.
FA: He was kind of crazy and wild yesterday. It wasn’t very smart
of me to think I could do the interview on the street on my mobile while I was
with my family. I couldn’t hear the questions. so I asked the restaurant next
to where I’m staying if I could use their phone today.
PK: They say having children changes everything.
FA: It brings out a lot of things that are a part of you but you
don’t know they are a part of you. You learn what’s important and what’s not.
I’m a family person. I come from a big family. I feel trust in and protected by
the family system. I just follow the biology.
PK: Did this contribute to the change in tone from the anarchic
“Head On” to the more meditative “Edge of Heaven?”
FA: Yes. I was writing it during the pregnancy and the birth and
the first few months. I was very emotional. It was a very frightening time and
crazy time as I was writing the screenplay. I was thinking a lot about death
while I was experiencing the birth. On the other hand I was also trying to do
something different because I had to prove to myself and to critics that I
could do something different. I didn’t want to repeat myself. It’s a very
curious film. It’s not that funny or crazy. It was inspired by all the stuff I
saw in Cannes
while I was on the jury in 2005.
http://gofrance.about.com/od/cannes/a/cannes05jury.htm And the next film I’m
working on will be very different from the last two.
PK: That’s “Soul Kitchen?”
FA: Yes. If it isn’t funny I’ll say it’s a melodrama. Comedy is
the hardest. I have been working for five years on that damn screenplay. I
think it’s the most difficult film I ever worked on.
PK: It’s your Billy Wilder film?
FA: I am very very inspired by him. And Woody Allen is very top
level. You can make people cry -- that’s so easy. Worldwide. You can make
people cry in Japan or great Britain
about the same things. But timing and humor is so much more difficult. On the
other hand, though it is more difficult, you don’t see any comedy in Cannes. It’s considered
by all the cinephiles and top film critics as very mainstream-y or not arty
enough. I think that’s arrogance. I know what I’m talking about because I’ve
been in the middle of the writing process of a comedy for five years.
PK: It shoots in October?
FA: I have financing and everything but I’ll tell you, if I don’t
feel comfortable with the script I won’t start shooting I don’t care. We’ll see
what will happen.
PK: By the way, “Edge of Heaven” -- do you like that translation
of the film’s title?Like translation of title?
FA: Yeah. I chose it. I didn’t like so much “On the Other Side”
[the literal translation of the film’s German title, “Auf der anderen Seite”]
as a translation.
PK: “The Edge of Heaven” sounds like a Douglas Sirk film that was
never made.
FA: I consider that a compliment. I wanted to give the film its
own identity for the commercial market. It’s a very beautiful title in German
but when you translate it word for word “On the Other Side…” There was another film “The Lives of Others.”
It sounds similar. It lacked a certain poetry. Maybe there is some, me not
being and English speaking person, but I asked English speakers and we
discovered “The Edge of Heaven.” When the professor is waiting for his father
on the beach at the end. That’s the perfect description.
PK: Which is not the same
beach you’re at now.
FA: The beach here is not so wild. It’s calm and protected and
safe for children.
PK: The multi-narrative reminds me of Kieslowski.
FA: Many people have compared it to Kieslowski and I have to
admit I’ve never seen his films. Except “A Short Film about Killing” and “A
Short Film About Love.” Those are by Kieslowski, right? But I haven’t seen the
trilogy.
PK: “Babel”
is another film it’s been compared to.
FA: That one I’ve seen. But I saw it during the editing process
[of “Edge”]. “21 Grams” was a big influence. For “Head-on” also. The way he
shot the film.
But I’m not so much influenced by [Alejandro Gonzalez] Inarritu
[the director]. I’m a friend of his writer Guillermo Arriaga. We met in Cannes and he became a friend.
PK: You also mentioned Persian and Asian films as influences.
FA: When you have a piece written by Arriaga and directed by
Inarritu he covers everything from every side so he completely controls it and
in the editing room he can do whatever he wants. At first I thought I was going
to do it like that. But then we thought we have this modern form of narrative
structure like with Tarantino, we decided the structure might be modern but the
way we would shoot the film actors landscape space, that was inspired by Asian
cinema. This makes the film more interesting, I think. On the one hand there’s
the classical oldfashionedc of telling the story and you have the moder way of
telling the story and you mix them together. I have some ideas and follow them
and in the end something different comes out. It develops its own power and
rules and you follow that Kubrick wasn’t like that. He never gave up until he
got exactly what he wanted. I don’t have that patience.
PK: Plus he made a film only every ten years or so.
FA: I respect that. But I feel comfortable doing something every
two or three years.
PK: You engaged in improvisation on this film?
FA: I don’t come to the set and say, what are we going to do today?
Since I’m the producer I like to be on time and be under budget. I like to be
fast, organized, prepared. The more you prepare the more space you have to try
stuf out. That’s been my experience. Before I
come to the set I have a rehearsal with my actors I know what they’re
going to do and I have a shot list for my DP. I know the location. Once
prepared you can be free. If I have
another idea o n the set or the actor has another idea which is better than we
can do that. But if I didn’t know what we were going to do I would be
completely lost. You don’t know what will happen on the set. Maybe it will be
rainy on that day you need it to be sunny. Instead of not shooting I will be
able to change the script and find a reason to put the rain into it.
PK: Is this more political? With the terrorist political group
and the fundamentalist vigilantes?
FA: I don’t think it’s a political. It depends on what the
definition of a political film is. A filmmaker like Yilmaz Guney, the great
Kurdish director who died in ‘84 and made “Yol” is political…
PK: Aren’t you working on a documentary about him?
FA: I’m working on a project about him. I don’t know yet whether
it will be a documentary or fiction. It’s a very difficult subject. But I like
him as a filmmaker. His passion, both romantic and visual. But he was a
political filmmaker. He believed he could change an audience. He was a Maoist.
He tried to teach an audience. He was didactic. Michael Moore also is a
political filmmaker. These filmmakers have certain ideas and they try to teach
the audience. I don’t want to teach myaudience because I don’t know anything
about anything. There’s nothing I know I can teach. If there as message I would
just say it and not put it in a film. Like Bob Marley, he’s got the same message in one line that’s
in my films “One love, one life, let’s
come together.” This is what I want to tell people: we’re all one, we’re all
united, connected to each other. It doesn’t matter where you come from or your
religion. It wasn’t the aim of the film in the beginning. It came out in the
process. At the end we could say, oh, it was about that.
It deals with political issues, right. But I don’t want to
compare it to those masters. Sidney Lumet, I think he’s a great political
filmmaker. He made films about political issues…But his films are about
humanity. The human being is in the foreground. He accepts and forgives human
beings for what they’re doing. But there are political issues in “Dog Day
Afternoon,” “Serpico” or “12 Angry Men.”
PK: How about Costra-Gavras?
FA: I love him and his work and he’s a political filmmaker. He
asked me to appear in his film and I couldn’t because of the time. But later I
thought it’s for the best because I really don’t want to act anymore. Even if I
act I’m not a good actor. I don’t feel comfortable. Directors always say, trust
me, trust me. I know I don’t do them a
favor if I appear in his films. Scorsese could come and ask me and I wouldn’t
do it.
PK: He’d act in your films probably though.
FA :Scorsese? That would be funny. That would be great. He’s a
great actor.
PK: What’s your deal with Hollywood?
Weren’t you planning to do a Western?
FA: It’s one of those 20 plus things I have to do. Last year I
made a huge trip to New Mexico
with friends and a camera and we collected a lot of material for something we
call “The Western.” Certain issues about Turkey
today we discovered that we could put them in an arty framing in the US. I really
want to come over and do something. But this is a very expensive and huge and
difficult thing to write.
You have the problem of
choice. So many interesting things that people offer to you. Or interesting
ideas you discover. Books, subjects. So much stuff to do. And what I’m going to do now is “Soul Kitchen.”
There’s an inner voice that says do “Soul Kitchen.” I don’t think I lack the
courage to come over. I’ve been negotiating for two years with an American
company to come over with a project. If you flirt with the studio, it’s
difficult. This studio has a great catalogue and great people and those people
have other people behind them and they have stuff to say. It’s difficult to
create an infrastructure where you feel yourself protected. And then it’s like
it took me ten years in Europe to get where
I’m completely free to do what I want and I don’t want to give this up. To do
things the way I want to do them. My
films are better than they were before. The first three films were important.
They were my education but the pictures weren’t so much for me but for the
producers. They had me do things I didn’t want to do. They forced me to
compromise. “Head-on” was the first film I produced so I could do what I wanted
and it was the most successful film so far.
They were great producers and they discovered me and taught me.
But it was living in the parents’ house. They had their own ideology and ideas
of right and wrong and when I became an adult I had my opinions and so I had to
move out.
PK: What would you do if a Hollywood
studio offered you, say, “Iron Man 2?”
FA: I have agents there. Sometimes I get a script that’s already
written. But at this point I’m afraid I’m more a filmmaker than a director. I
wish I could be a director. I’ve done that in the past in Germany working
from a screenplay. That’s difficult working with my own language. But if I get
something in Los Angeles
or New York I have to go there and understand people and the lifestyle.
PK: Here’s an odd item I read: you were arrested in Germany for
wearing an anti-Bush T-shirt with a swastika on it.What happened with that?
FA: The German police wanted to put me in jail. I didn’t know
that this was criminal. If I knew it was criminal I wouldn’t wear it. I saw
that Hugo Chavez was wearing it and a football player and I was proud wearing
the same T-shirt as them. It was interesting - “Der Spiegel” had
the story and you should see all the internet users’ comments - very, very ugly
comments by Germans. Like, how many Armenians were killed by your grandfather?
Stuff like that. On the one hand, it’s good to see what such a symbol brings
out in the German mind. There not cool with that at all. They completely freak
out. But also like Nazis. Zealous. Really ugly stuff.
PK: But the anti-Bush refrence didn’t bother anyone.
FA: Not at all. Like I tried to tell “Der Spiegel,” his looking for a reason to attack Iraq was like Hitler’s rationale for an attack
against Poland.
PK: Let’s change the subject to Hanna Schygulla. What was it like
working with her?
FA: It was like flirting with her. Like dancing with her. I wish
I wasolder or she was younger and we could have a love affair or something like
that. It was a bit like an unspoken love affair. I saw some Fassbinder films before I met her,
because he made so many. But most of her films I watched afterwards. I met her
at a film festival in Zagreb.
Then I discovered “Maria Braun” and “Lili Marlene” and all that. “Petra Von Kant.” I fell in
love with her. The film was written for her.
PK: It seems in a lot of your films when a character goes to Turkey bad
something happens.
FA: I don’t want to create that image. It’s a beautiful country.
I think it’s the most beautiful country in the world. I’m a filmmaker, a
storyteller. Sometimes I tell dark stories. This is my fantasy. People get
angry about my fantasies sometimes. I think America is a great place. But when
you see all the films made there with mass murder you don’t think the place is
like that.
PK: How goes the Turkish film industry?
FA: . There are a few great filmmakers. Like Nuri Bilge Ceylan,
who won the best director award in Cannes
this year. And Zeki Demirkibuz. He’s a great
guy. They produce direct, write and edit themselves. Turkey is a unique country with
unique issues. It’s a very strange country. The EU, America can’t help us. We are very
alone. Not irrational, but emotional. Passionate. So I think you can look for
good cinema coming from here. We have a lot of problems and so a lot of stories
to tell.
6/29/2008 3:05:00 PM by Peter | |
Thursday, June 26, 2008
  As you might
recall, in his discussion
a few days back of "War, Inc." John Cusack mentioned as an example of a
straight-talking journalist CBS
newsperson Lara Logan. Indeed, she might have
served as somewhat of a model of that film’s heroine, the crusading reporter played
by Marisa Tomei who gets involved romantically with the corporate hitman played
by Cusack. Now, according to "The New York Post," life
seems to be imitating politically edgy entertainment as they report that Logan
had an affair with a US Embassy worker while on assignment in Baghdad (she also apparently found time to
make whoopie with CNN reporter Michael
Ware).
Apparently the embassy guy’s
estranged wife is making a fuss about it as leverage in the couple’s ongoing
divorce procedures. But you have to wonder about political motivations,
since Logan, as Cusack noted, is
one of the few outspoken critics of the administration in mainstream media.
CBS, however, insists that she will retain her recent post as their “foreign affairs” chief. You can imagine what "The Post" did with that unfortunate choice of words.
Let that be a warning to whomever is named
in this blog as being in opposition to those in power! Who knew how widely read
and influential it must be! Who knows how delusional I can be!
6/26/2008 1:13:00 PM by Peter | |
Monday, June 23, 2008
 Most discussions of “War, Inc.” have concentrated on John
Cusack’s outspoken politics and have ignored or dismissed the contribution of
the director, Josh Seftel. Which is a shame because the Tufts grad and longtime
Somerville resident not only gave the film a big budget look on a shoestring
but also brought in some genuine war zone experience, and I’m not just talking
about his documentary “Taking on the Kennedys.” Here’s
a transcription of our phone conversation from a few days back.
PK: Are you
still on the Kennedy hate list?
JS: People
always ask me, “Do the Kennedy’s hate you?” and I just think it’s a funny question,
and it’s not…. I’ve hung out with Patrick since the film, it’s just so not a
big deal with them.
PK: So this
is your first feature-length feature film. How did you get involved in making
this movie?
JS: Well, I
made a short film called “Breaking the Mold: The Kee Malesky Story". Maryland Public Television asked me if I wanted to
direct a fiction film. And I said “sure, it sounds like fun,” and they said,
“there’s one catch: it has to teach middle-aged children about indoor air
quality.” So I said, look, I’ll do it if I can write it, and I can do a
director’s cut that I can enter into film festivals, and they said sure, go for
it. So I made the film, I shot it in Lowell Mass, and worked with all improv
comedians from the Boston area, and that film did well, I mean it played in
festivals and was kind of a sleeper. Alexander Payne saw it in Seattle, at a festival, and he called me, and
he said, “look,” he said, “you have an original voice, you should be directing
features.” And he said, “I have a script I want you to read, tell me what you
think of it,” so he sent me a script for a film called “Et tu, Babe” and
I liked the script a lot, and he said, “Well, I’m going to introduce you to the
guys who wrote it.” And it was written by Mark Leyner and John Cusack. And from
that point forward, I got to know John and Mark and John’s producing partner,
Grace Loh, and we started talking and hanging out for probably it was a period
of 2 to 3 years, where we were talking about finding ways to work together.
PK: So that
film was not made.
JS: That film
hadn’t been made, no, we talked about a few different projects, and a couple
projects almost happened but didn’t quite happen. And then this one came along,
and it was just the right timing.
PK: Did you
find this to be more challenging than making an independent short film about
air quality?
JS: Is it
more challenging? I mean in some ways yes, in some ways no, right? Obviously
it’s a bigger scope, bigger budget, I mean we weren’t blowing things up. We
weren’t blowing shit up in Lowell. But we were in Bulgaria.
PK: Not that Lowell couldn’t use a
little blowing up.
JS: No, I
love Lowell.
And it’s an up-and-coming city, right?
PK: I guess. I don’t know what that means. It’s no Lynn,
that’s for sure.
JS: Exactly. So, you know, one of the great things about working on a film of this
size and with this kind of cast is having that cast to work with. It’s like
being the coach of the dream team,
PK: You also
had kind of a low budget. When I found out it had such a low budget,
after seeing it, I thought, how’d they do that?
JS: Bulgaria
is a magical place. The budget goes a lot further there. You take 10 million
dollars and really it becomes 40 million on the screen. To have extras in Bulgaria …people
work for a really small amount of money. And we had a great Bulgarian crew, I
mean,he guy on the set, our pyro guy, the guy that blows stuff up? He
actually used to work for the Bulgarian mafia.
PK: Ah, great
on a resume.
JS: He told
us his job was to blow up cars for the mafia. So we had a lot of authenticity
with our pyro guy.
PK: You
didn’t have any dealings with the Bulgarian mafia other than this guy, right?
JS: Not that
I know of.
PK: Do you
think the word is going to get out that the so-called liberal “War, Inc.”
people were exploiting Bulgarian workers?
JS: I never
said they were exploited.
PK: I was
especially impressed in a scene in a war zone -- Falafel? Or Falaf? It kind of
reminded me of the fortress at the end of the river in “Apocalypse Now” meshed
with the Battle of Hue in “Full Metal Jacket.” How did you put that together?
JS: Well, you
know, "Full Metal Jacket" definitely something that came to mind when I saw – we
found this set, it was actually an old factory that was being torn down, it was
in the process of being torn down, we found the set, and we said, “Stop what
you’re doing, this is great.” It was a bunch of buildings, that were – all that
was left were the frames and a lot of rubble around it. And so they halted the
demolition for the time we took to shoot it, and we just came in and had an
amazing production designer who actually did the film “Delicatessen,” Miljen Kreka Kljakovic
and he just did amazing things with what was there. That was a big part of it,
was finding things that were already there, and making the most of them.
PK: Like that
palace on the hill... Was that a found location also?
JS: That was
CGI.
PK: Oh,
that’s so disillusioning.
JS: There was
a house, there was a structure up there, but we made it look more majestic, I
think, as I recall. Sorry.
PK: That’s
ok. You’ve worked in documentaries up until this point. Did you find that was
an asset in making this movie, which is kind of surreal?
JS: The work
I’ve done in documentaries was
invaluable. When I read the script, I was struck by the absurdity of it and at
the same time, there’s so much truth and reality to the absurd moments, and a
lot of this stuff I’ve seen in real life. I’ve been in war zones, in hot-spots,
I’ve been in the back rooms of political campaigns, I’ve followed pop-stars
around as a journalist. I felt like I could bring that to the table, and try to…try
to interpret that.
PK: This is
all from your work on “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy” that you got all this
experience?
JS: Yeah,
most of the war-zone stuff, yeah. No, you know, I was in Bosnia, and in
Romanian orphanages.
PK: Why were
you in Bosnia
in 1995?
JS: I was
covering the war. It was kind of a youthful adventure.
PK:
Dangerous.
JS: Very
dangerous. I learned that it’s not fun to be shot at.
PK: Aww, come
on. You young guys.
JS: I know,
right? This was in Mostar.
PK: Probably
saw some nasty stuff.
JS: Yes.
Pretty scary stuff. And just devastation. You’re walking around and the streets
are all pock-marked with shelling, and buildings, all the windows are blown out,
it’s just a wasteland.
PK: And
you were able to bring this sensibility to “War Inc.” You said in an interview
that you like to combine the depressing with the funny.
JS: This
is different from the other films made about what’s going on in Iraq. It’s a
different tone, it’s funny, I’d have to say it’s a wild ride, it’s face paced,
it’s weird…
PK: It’s
funnier than “Lions for Lambs,” let’s put it that way.
JS: You need
to give people a different flavor on this topic, they’ve already seen everything
on CNN in a serious tone, and it’s just another way of getting at this subject.
PK: Do you
think films can change things?
JS: Yeah,
change things, or help people, or teach people, you know, what have you. That’s
what matters to me the most about the time I’m spending on my work. It may
teach people not to put scorpions down their pants, I don’t know.
PK: Or it may
encourage people to do it now, ‘cause they saw Hilary Duff do it. I tried it.
No big deal.
JS: How did
you like Hilary Duff?
PK: I almost
didn’t recognize her.
JS: Do you
know the story behind that look and everything? I went online and I printed out
the trampiest pictures of our trampiest pop-stars in their trampiest moments.
And I tried to take the most horrific aspects of several of them and try to
combine it into one person.
PK: That’s a
lot to work with there.
JS: That is a
lot to work with. So we took, you know, purple hair extensions, and the right
kind of eye make-up, and the right kind of clothing, we just kept adding more
and we looked at her and she still looked really adorable, and so we added more
and more, and finally after several applications of make-up and other trampy
things, we felt like we hit our mark, but it took a lot to overcome the
wholesome factor. And then she just did a great job, I thought, in terms of her
performance. I thought it was a revelation.
PK: Another
Hilary making great strides for women. By the way, do you think the election is
going to energize the popularity of the movie, because people are so much into
politics now?
JS: I think
there is something happening right now, things are shifting for sure, and I
think this film could be…. I think it’s going to inspire people, for sure, and
I think that, you know, like I said, I hope that it changes the way that people
see things, or maybe the way people vote.
PK: And maybe
the way people make movies too.
JS: Um… we’ll
see about that.
6/23/2008 2:09:00 PM by Peter | |
Monday, June 16, 2008
Once you get John started on this Iraq thing he sure has a lot to say. Here's the rest of our conversation, which is kind of an education on recent US foreign policy that you probably haven't heard much about if you stick to the mainstream media and are bugged by the poltical referecnces in "Iron Man" and "You Don't Mess With the Zohan." And he still finds time to talk about Hilary Duff's pants.
PK: Do you think this is the best time to release the
movie? Wasn’t it originally conceived in
2004?
JC: We conceived of
it at the very very height of it, you
know, when the statue fell and Bush was strutting around like a peacock. And
people were on podiums telling, we should all watch what we say, and all those
kind of threats, those McCarthyite threats.
PK: Around the time the contractors were killed in Fallujah…
J C: It was right
around there. We had been writing the
script for a while. You know, I had been studying a lot of this stuff for a
while, talking to as many independent journalists as I could, and getting as
much information as I could from all the great heoric journalists out there who
really put their lives on the line to get the truth out about this stuff, from
Naomi [Klein] who was over there, to Jeremy
Scahill, to the reports in the McClatchy
Newspapers to Laura Logan and some other people I
knew over there. And the list goes on
and on. But when you realize what they were doing. And you realize they had
used 9/11 to foster in kind of this shadow version of the state that’s fully
privatized. And when you knew that when Bremer walked in there – you know we sort of based the look of Hauser
[the mercenary played by Cusack] off of Paul Bremer, you know the disaster
capitalist, as Naomi called him, with the Brooks Brothers suit and the army
boots going around in the helicopters. So these aren’t very subtle facts, and
the journalists got it out there that while the place was still burning he basically by fiat exempted Blackwater from
any federal or international law and basically issued orders that all the
subsidies of the state could be soldto 100% ownerships by foreign companies. We
basically create a market with war. We make money off of destruction of the
place, and we come in take over, make money rebuilding the whole place, and
then we preach about the free markets, all the while allowing a complete protectionist
racket and then tell the Iraqis that when we’re done you can work here. And
then with a straight face we say we’re interested in freedom. I mean the balls
of that, the hypocrisy, the lies are so intense it makes your eyes water. So if
you know what’s going on over there, and you know that’s what this ideology
really is. …and of course this has nothing to do with the soldiers who are
being manipulated, the only people who aren’t dirty in this mess are the
military’s families and the soldiers who are doing their jobs. But the companies that are trying to create
these new “free markets” with war and then protect them and the mercenaries and
you know, its like they’re just gorging off of other people’s land and property,
is so immoral. And the other great thing
that people don’t know about this stuff is that we’re paying for all these
companies to do this. They just bill us
right at the state department. So lets
say you thought it was okay for Blackwater or Bechtel or any of these companies
to do what they’re doing over there, well, we’re paying for it.
PK: Do you think it would have been a more effective movie
if it came out in 2004 or is it more so now?
JC: I think that what’s improtant is that we wanted to make
it in 2004 and we started making it, but I think right now, the movie has been
done five or six months now, but when even four or five months ago when we had
the movie done, the reaction was well, that’s anti-American and we don’t want
to show it, you know, we always knew we’d get a polarizing reaction to the
movie. But now we’re getting a much more open response to it.
PK: I’ve been looking at some of the reviews, and you expect
a lot of the right wing nuts to kind of come out against it and there were a
few of those, but most of these negative reviews were from film critics who…
JC: Most critics are on the
liberal side of things
PK: Do you feel sort of betrayed
by that?
JC: Nope, I thought it was kind
of predicatable
PK: Why is that?
JC: Well, we’re talking about a culture in the press mostly.
I would say the “New York Times,”for
example, I’m a big fan of Bob Herbert and a lot of reporters over there, and
there’s a lot of great individual reporters.
PK: They win a lot of Pulitzer
Prizes.
JC: Right, but it’s also a culture that enabled the war for
six or seven years, broke all the Judy Miller stuff, didn’t take a really hard
stand on any of this stuff for years, and at the end of the greatest foreign
policy disaster in the history of the country, it took one of the intellectual
architects of the invasion, and gave him a column on the back page, Bill Kristol.
I wouldn’t
expect that culture to get the movie. And also I don’t know if some of the reviewers
who reviewed it didn’t really know what’s going in Iraq. I mean some people have said
the movie is five years too late. Do
they know anything about what’s going on over there? I’ll tell you this: if you
look a the people we have on on myspace, some of the people who have been over
there, people who have written books about it. I don’t know if they think it’s
five years too late.
PK: I think some of the criticism comes from an aesthetic
point of view because I think it’s very hard for a lot of critics to accept
films that have drastic changes of tone from real madcap comedy to something
th at’s really grim. I mean there’s a scene where you get the amputee Rockettes,
it’s a real assault.
JC: We wanted to do that.
We thought it needed to be offensive. If you thought of – this is going to sound insane – when Bob Dylan went
electric, he got booed. When Punk Rock came out, the easy listening rock
critics didn’t like it. I mean it’s not
meant to be cherished in that way. It’s
meant to provoke and outrage and it’s a raw low-budget movie. But the tone shifts
were intentional, that was something that we liked, which is we wanted it to be
kind of disarming and kind of like bit like a fever dream. Whether we liked that our not, fine, but for
the critics to suggest that it wasn’t intentional…They don’t have to like it,
and they don’t have to get it. But let’s
just put it this way, the mainstream media and the power journalists haven’t
been right about much in the last 7 years.
PK: That excludes me.
JC: Maybe it does, and as I said I don’t like to paint
people into brushes, but I will say it hasn’t b een uniformed, but I wouldn’t
expect a movie that’s pretty experimental and out there to be appreciated right
away. And many timesa piece of art is not understood right when it
comes out, but yet the more you look at it, the more you go wait a minute that
does have a pulse, that does reflect life a little bit, that does reflect what
is going on right now.
PK: It does draw on a lot of tradition films going back to “Doctor
Strangelove,” even the Marx Brothers.
JC: Or “Putney Slope,” or any of those types of things that
challenge the conventional wisdom and the aristocracy, so that you can’t then
be upset that the traditional wisdom doesn’t like it.
PK: So the plans are to release it on the platform basis,
and then have it come out on DVD in July?
JC: No not at all. The plan is that it’s gonna come out
boosted up by about 18 or 20 theatres in New
York or LA. We still don’t have much of an
advertising budget, so it’s completely all viral, what’s been happening. But
then they’re gonna go to about 10 new markets in two weeks. And if that keeps
going well, then we’ll just keep going with it. So we’re gonna platform it, and
I’m hoping that it will, but we’ve gotten all these people who really really
love the movie and are into the cause of making it a viral movie. And they feel like if we can get this movie
out there, we can send a message that we want more of these types of movies.
And they wanted to actually get interacted with the film and have meetings
afterwards and get people together and have fun with it.
PK: If Bill O’Reilly asked you to appear on his program,
would you accept?
JC: What, Bill O’Reilly?
PK: Yeah
JC: I dunno. I dunno what the point would be but I dunno if
he’d really be interested in talking about any of it.
PK: He’d treat you like everyone else; he’d set you up as a pinata, and then not
allow you to respond to any of his abuse.
JC: You know I’m Irish too and I don’t take shit from
people.
PK: You could probably take him too. You were a kickboxer
right?
JC: That’s right. the only thing is that he’s gotten his
teeth kicked in so many times intellectu ally speaking, it’s kind of like
kicking someone while he’s down.
PK: It’s kind of like picking on
George Bush at this point.
JC: But that man’s still got a lot of power, and that man’s
still getting people killed.
PK: Well there’s always Iran. He can
still go after them..
JC: My only point with this is that I’m hoping that
well-meaning Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, anyone with a shred of
patriotism in their body, will band together to disgrace, mock, and shame this
ideology, but also it’s important that they be held accountable, you know,
because if they’re not, I just don’t know what the future of the country is
because it means, well, the constitution and the laws don’t mean anything if
the Democrats are close to getting power. So because Pelosi takes impeachment
off the table, so that means we may get the White House back, the rule of law
doesn’t matter?
PK: I think impeachment has been off the table since Nixon
got off the hook for Watergate.
JC: Yeah, but I think that’s a
disaster.
PK: Definitely. But this is what my readers what my readers
are interested in. Is it true that you dropped a scorpion down Hilary Duff’s
pants?
JC: She dropped it down her own
pants.
PK: How is that possible?
JC: I dunno, there wasn’t any law against it in Bulgaria [where
the film was shot], and Hilary read the script and she knew she wanted to do
it. She’s really game. She’s
like a pretty spirited wild-woman. She’s pretty great.
PK: Was that an allusion to"The
Wild Bunch?"
JC: I don’t think we probably thought of it, but I’m sure it
was in some way.
PK: I guess my question is, how
do you avoid getting stung?
JC: Well there’s a scorpion wrangler in Bulgaria, which is a good job if you think how
many scorpion wranglers could there be in Bulgaria. He’s probably got the
market cornered there. But he had these scorpions and he took off the poison
stinger, or he somehow neutralized the poison stinger, and Hilary put that scorpion down her pants.
6/16/2008 1:36:00 PM by Peter | |
Saturday, June 14, 2008
In between political ads and
app earances on MSNBC firing back at Bill O’Reilly, John
Cusack has been working hard lately to promote his new film, “War,Inc.” And for good reason. Not only is it another film about the Iraq (or
"Turaquistan") War, which so far have all gotten beaten up both critically at the
box office, but it’s also a satire, the genre that, as George S. Kaufman put
it, "closes on Saturday night." Not to mention, as Larissa Alexandrovna darkly
hints in the “Huffington Post,” a “blacklisting” by critics presumably all part
of the right wing conspiracy. Well, we should be so lucky.
Despite the demands on his time, John still was able to spare me
about 40 minutes on the phone. I found him thoughtful, passionate, prone to
long pauses while he ruminated. Literally ruminated, as in “chewed,” for, as I eventually
realized, he was eating his lunch.
So go see this movie if only to let this poor man eat his lunch
in peace.
PK: In its first two weekends at four theatres it’s rivaled
in per screen average Indiana Jones and Sex and the City. How do you account
for that?
JC: Well it's kind of a long answer but I’ll see if I can
give you one. Whenever we’ve gotten the movie in front of the audience, people
have really, really loved it, and we’ve had a really polarizing response to the
movie, which we sort of thought we would going in. And what’s been reported
sort of in the press a little bit is that
everyone hates the movie, but somehow people are going anyway, and that’s a
weird a story but if you look at what’s happening on in the press, and we have
a big myspace page and we have, I dunno, 30 or 40 heroes of the left and the
activist left, you know, from Gore Vidal to Naomi Klein, to Damien Hurst to Laura Logan from “60 Minutes,”
to people who really know these issues, and who write more about just movies
and junkets. They’re writing about politics and culture and life, and many of
the people who have defended the movie and championed it have never written
about films before, although they’re people from like Larissa Alexandrovna and
some others, and we’ve had alter “Alternet,” Crooks and Liars. You know, there’s been a real viral
groundswell about the movie. and so people are thinking , there’s seems to be a
lot people who really do get it, and those people seem to really impress
people, so I think that gets people in the door. And people are probably realizing that the
movie is meant to be offensive and it takes aim at the corporate media and the
mainstream media as much as it does the neocons. So I think it’s inevitable that certain
people weren’t gonna get it. Some people
looked at the movie and saw that, you know, it has a happy ending, and they
don’t really realize that we’re satirizing happy endings in movies. So it’s
okay that people don’t get it. No one is required to like our little punk rock
movie. But I think it’s disingenuous to
suggest that there hasn’t been a whole bunch of support for the movie too. I
mean from people in meanstream media like the “Los Angeles Times” and “Time” magazine
and “USA Today.” So, we’ve gotten a polarizing response to it and not entirely
negative. And it’s sort of being presented like it’s just negative. I think people want a movie that takes it right to the heart of the Bush-Cheney
cabal.
PK: All the other Iraq War movies have tanked. This is the
only that’s a comedy. Do you think that’s why it’s been more appealing to
audiences?
JC: Well I think
there’s that, and also I think that there’s two ways you can go. That there’s
this sense of inevitability about the whole thing and that maybe that Bush and
Cheney and what they represent, which is this kind of 30 year movement from
this far far right which is to kind of, totally privatize everything that it
means to be a state. I think that people know that that’s, you know, they have
a sense of inevitability that this is the way things are and it’s just too
entrenched and its so depressing what’s happening and what America has been
reduced to and the damage that’s been done to our military and the damage
that’s been done to the image of America across the world. And so it’s very
depressing, so when you finish work, and you know, you might not want to be
reminded of that in a very serious and somber way. But when you get a comedy or
satire, and this isn’t like “The Wedding Crashers,” it’s not like it is, well
sometimes it is, but it’s not like you’re suppopsed to just laugh and
escape. You’re supposed to have nervous
laughter and uncomfortable laughter and you’re supposed to think. But I think
this type of a film allows you to reclaim your sense of defiance and your sense
of outrage and the sense of subversion.
It should be fun to tell the right people to go to hell. It should feel
good to tell the truth and run. So, I
think this allows people to get riled up in a healthy way. And I think that’s what absurdist comedy does
because it basically just takes current trends to their logical conclusion in a
world that’s gone totally mad. That logical conclusion is surreal and insane,
which is exactly what the Bush-Cheney world view is.
PK: So you think that at this point, most of the American
people are against the war and realize it’s a mistake and so forth, but they
don’t think they can do anything about it. So when a movie comes up that tells
them what they already know they’ll just feel depressed, unless you can somehow
convince them there’s something they can do about it, or that a spirit of
subversion is actually something they can aspire to.
JC: Yeah I mean I think that there’s. there’s a great writer name Arundhati Roy. http://www.weroy.org/arundhati.shtmlAnd
what she said I tried to remember when we were making the movie. And we tried to remember it. “Our strategy should not only be to confront
empire but to lay seige to it, to deprive it of oxygen, to shame it, to mock it
with our art, our music, our literature, our stubborness and our sheer
relentlessness and our ability to tell our own stories, stories that are
different than the ones we’re being brainwashed to believe. The corporate
revolution will collapse if we refuse to buy what they’re selling. Their ideas,
their version of history, their wars, their weapons, their notion of inevitability. Remember this, we be many but they be few.
They need us more than we need them.” So
I thought that was kind of brilliant quote which I thought encapsulates that.
And I that, you know, if it wasn’t Arundhati Roy, it might have been Abbie
Hoffman saying it.
PK: He probably did say that, but maybe not in exactly the
same way.
JC: But what I’m saying is that sentiment is one that we
desperately need, because the first thing that we need to reclaim is our sense
of outrage and our spirit and our sense that we’re not gonna let these bastards
get away with this. That’s what I feel anyway, but I think that movie seems to
be tapping into that spirit a bit.
NEXT: Hilary Duff and the scorpion.
6/14/2008 5:47:00 PM by Peter | |
Wednesday, June 11, 2008
And so the debate about the future of film criticism, which,
admittedly, only film critics seem to be interested in, goes on.
Here’s my own recent illustrative anecdote. A couple of
weeks ago the local publicists for Disney invited me to an early screening of
their big summer animation movie, “WALL-e.” Then they, well, disinvited me.
Why? It seems the early screenings were only for those who were gioing to do
interviews for puff pieces on the film or who were going to write stuff like: "WALL*E"
delivered big time. How big time is big time? Let's just say it's a good thing
I was sitting in the back row, because this movie charmed my fucking pants off,
then went down on me in public for an hour and a half. (To the family sitting
next to me, sorry for all the noise.)”
as in this review.
As you can see, then, the Disney and Pixar people, like all
studios, fear us. One bad word from us would topple the “WALL-e” juggernaut
from clearing $60 million in its opening weekend despite enlisting people like
NASA in its PR campaign (see below). How else could mediocre blockbusters like “Iron Man” and
“You Don’t Mess With the Zohan”
clean up
at the box office if not for a thumbs up from the top tier of movie critics?
Only a cynic would suggest that the movies were going to make a ton of money
anyway and these guys are just desperately trying to seem cool, in the loop and
relevant by liking them.
And if you have any doubt about the power of criticism, how
about Sony Classics avoiding New York
City in their opening of Mark and Jay Duplass’s “Baghead” and instead releasing the film in places like Portland
and Austin that
“tend to connect with what’s new and different.”
The reason? David Poland in Movie City News suggests it
might have something to do with this negative “New York Times” review of the
Duplass Brothers’ first film “The Puffy Chair.”
So there you go: when critics aren’t proving their mettle by
getting on the bandwagon for the most recent heavily promoted summer movie, they
can show their stuff by scaring off anyone who dares to show originality and
talent on a tiny budget. So there!
6/11/2008 1:43:00 PM by Peter | |
Sunday, June 08, 2008
 Are the
terrorists winning the war of popular culture? While everyone has been keeping
their eyes out for dirty bombs and airline hijackings, sleeper cells have
infiltrated the ranks of Oprah’s Book Club and summer movie blockbusters. Leave it to
eagle-eyed critic Debbie Schlussel to
spot the hand of Al Qaeda in Andre Dubus III’s Oprah-touted “The Garden of Last Days,” which
“sympathizes” with one of the 9/11 terrorists. Good call, Debbie - if we start to try comprehending the motives
and psychology of our enemy, then the terrorists will win.
But it
doesn’t stop there. Of course you’d expect a pointy-headed liberal “auteur”
like Steven Soderbergh to spend four hours of screen time celebrating the life
of a cold-blooded commie killer in his new hagiographic biopic “Che.” Nor is it a surprise that our craven European “allies” are turning out garbage hailing such
deranged political criminals as the Baader-Meinhof gang (in the upcoming German film “The Baader-Meinhof Complex”) or the lovable Carlos the Jackal in a new film by French director Olivier
Asssayas. 
But in fact
the bad guys are much closer to home, no further away than the local multiplex.
Again, hats off to Debbie Schlussel on tipping us off months ago about the
baleful influence of "Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo:" “It's not
exactly a newsflash that Hollywood
sides with Islamic terrorists and is against the impotent War on Terror,” she
sagely reminds us. “And I've noted that actor Kal Penn, who played Kumar Patel
in the hit movie, "Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle," is sympathetic with Muslims and
Islamic terrorists…”
No doubt
about Kal Penn.
I mean, he LOOKS like a terrorist. But Adam Sandler? Sad but true. His new
comedy “Don’t Mess With the Zohan” not only portrays a terrorist (played by
John Turturro) as “sympathetic,” but has the malignant audacity to suggest that
one way to solve the ongoing crisis in the Middle East is by having Israelis
and Palestinians getting along with each other! “[H]igh quality Bin Laden Cinema” indeed.
You can mess
with the Zohan. But don’t mess with Debbie Schlussel
6/8/2008 5:22:00 PM by Peter | |
Tuesday, June 03, 2008
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