Misogyny.
God, I mean, you know, the one place I've heard that is this guy who interviewed me for Vice magazine who said that he saw it with a friend who felt that it was misogynistic, and I was really surprised. The response that I seem to get when people respond to the movie is kind of the opposite of that; people appreciate that I've written characters for women to play, as opposed to eye candy.
The women all seemed to be some kind of negative portrait.
I don't agree with that, but second of all, I don't think that portraying somebody with characteristics that aren't necessarily ideal is misogyny. I mean, I do that with male characters, too. I'm trying to write human beings, so why is that misogynistic?
Good point. Do you record your dreams?
No. I often think I should and often get a book and never do it. The idea of dreams was a basis for a lot of the imagery and the logic in the movie. But they didn't come directly from dreams. So I don't know . . . I'm still stuck on the misogyny. It's just a weird thing. I think people maybe confuse misogyny with I don't know what . . .
Mybe we should move on to another topic. A lot of people point to it as a signature moment when Caden is examining his stools.
Yeah. It's weird, the stuff that you don't really think about and then everyone is saying, like he's examining his stools means his head's up his ass, or whatever it is that they're saying. But there's a lot of illness in the movie, and that's one of the things people talk about when you've got health issues, and it's one of the things you watch. And I wanted to show it because everyone has feces, and probably a lot of people look at them. Maybe people don't poke them apart with bathroom brushes.
I think everyone has done that at one time in his or her life.
I wasn't going to make any assumptions.
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