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Up-Hil climb

Even if Obama goes three for three in January, he still faces a steep challenge from Clinton
December 19, 2007 12:35:19 PM

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Those in the press always prefer presidential races to be close contests, and this year they’ve seemingly lucked out again. The latest story line has Hillary Clinton on the defensive, as a surging Barack Obama mounts a successful challenge against the New York senator, who was widely presumed to have the nomination wrapped up before the process even started.

Yes, it is true that Obama is doing well in the early states (though, as of this writing, he doesn’t have a clear lead in any of them). But according to the detailed nationwide polls, Clinton is still thoroughly trouncing Obama. So much so, in fact, that one unmistakable thing is now clear: if Obama does overtake Clinton to win the nomination, it will rank among the biggest upsets in modern political history — on par with George McGovern’s toppling of front-runner Edmund Muskie in 1972.

A New York Times/CBS nationwide December poll has Clinton ahead of Obama 44 to 27 percent. A similar ABC/Washington Post poll has her leading at 52 to 23 percent. Those numbers can be eroded, certainly, but overturning them won’t be easy, by a long shot, no matter what happens in the early primaries.

And the “internals” (pinpointed polling data) reflected in the surveys bolster evidence of Clinton’s lead even more. Who do Democratic voters think is the strongest leader? The Post poll has Clinton leading Obama 61 to 19 percent. Which leader is the most trustworthy (a trait that is supposedly Clinton’s Achilles’ heel)? The Post poll has her ahead of Obama here, as well — 35 to 27 percent. Who is the most electable? Clinton crushes Obama on that one again, 59 to 16 percent. Is Obama experienced enough to be president? The Times poll finds that a 52-to-41-percent majority, even of Democrats, thinks Obama needs more time to grow.

So despite what you read about the candidates’ reversals of fortune, the truth according to current polls is pretty clear: nationally, most Democrats are quite happy with Clinton.

Early-state erosion
Of course, it’s a different story in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina, where the race now appears to be a dead heat. One could argue that when voters pay attention — as they have in states where voting is imminent — Clinton’s lead collapses. Perhaps. But one problem with that argument is that the rest of the nation will never follow the race as closely as have the voters in those first three states. After January, the campaign will become a whirlwind, and even if he wins some early states, Obama will still have to do an awful lot to reverse his weak national poll numbers.

Second, Clinton may be polling poorly in the early contests due to extraneous factors unique to those states. South Carolina has one of the largest percentages of black voters (about 50 percent) — a natural Obama constituency. In New Hampshire, independents can vote in the Democratic primary — and Hillary doesn’t do as well with these voters as she does with members of her own party. (In the latest Concord Monitor poll, Clinton leads Obama 36 percent to 27 percent among Democrats, but trails 40 percent to 23 percent among independents.)

Although the press seldom mentions it, Clinton’s problem in Iowa may be that the Hawkeye State — one of the few states never to elect a woman to the House of Representatives, the Senate, or the governorship — isn’t fertile ground for a female candidate. It’s no coincidence that criticisms voiced about Clinton by Iowa voters — e.g., she wants to have it both ways — echo sentiments people often have about women in general.

There’s another significant factor emerging from nationwide polls: Democrats love Bill Clinton. In the Times poll, Bill’s involvement with Hillary’s campaign makes Democrats more likely to support her by a 44-to-7-percent plurality. This is a unique circumstance in modern Democratic politics. The five most recent Democratic presidents besides Clinton have left office either disgraced (Truman, LBJ, Carter) or martyred (FDR, JFK). True, Hillary occasionally has problems separating herself from her husband, and, from time to time, Bill goes off message. But he is a huge asset — far larger than Oprah or anyone else on the modern political scene.

Yes, Obama can win (and so can Edwards). Presidential politics takes some weird turns once the voting actually begins. But Clinton retains a huge reservoir of support among Democratic voters that Obama will need to overcome in only a few weeks’ time. Even if Hillary does lose the first three states in January, it’s still unlikely that Obama can capitalize on his early success in time to dethrone her on Super Tuesday and beyond. He has a proverbial mountain to climb.

THE FIELD
REPUBLICANS
RUDY GIULIANI
Odds: 5-2| past week: 2-1
MIKE HUCKABEE
Odds: 4-1 | same
MITT ROMNEY
Odds: 5-1 | same
JOHN McCAIN
Odds: 5-1 | same
FRED THOMPSON
Odds: 7-1 | 9-1
RON PAUL
Odds: 200-1 | 150-1
DUNCAN HUNTER
Odds: 200,000-1 | same
TOM TANCREDO
Odds: 250,000-1 | same
ALAN KEYES
Odds: 30 million-1 | 3 million-1

DEMOCRATS
HILLARY CLINTON

Odds: 1-2 | past week: 4-5
BARACK OBAMA
Odds: 3-1 | 2-1
JOHN EDWARDS
Odds: 10-1 | 9-1
JOE BIDEN
Odds: 100-1 | same
CHRIS DODD
Odds: 200-1 | same
BILL RICHARDSON
Odds: 200-1 | same
DENNIS KUCINICH
Odds: 100,000-1 | same
MIKE GRAVEL
Odds: 16 million-1 | same

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COMMENTS

We learned about ten years ago that the emperor had no clothes--or at least no pants. Now we seem to have forgotten it as he plays majorette to Lady Conniva on her little white donkey.

POSTED BY gordon AT 12/20/07 2:23 AM

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