Was there a bidding war?
It was just the typical buzz-band thing – everyone goes to the shows, everyone’s fighting over you. It’s really awkward and it’s a little bit of an ego stroke but it’s also the scariest thing that has ever happened to you because you’re just not sure of what you want to make of this project, if you want to make it your life or not. And what happened was, you know, we released Chunk of Change in September and that was received well. It wasn’t that people loved it, it showed that we had potential. I don’t think we were a good band, I don’t think we started playing well until we released Manners. I just don’t think we played well. I think it was just potential, which is really scary to think about because you have shoes to fill that are very big.

It’s kind of an “oh shit” moment.
But I didn’t have that feeling when we were recording Manners because I was convinced that it was going to be solid pop music and people were either going to like it or absolutely hate it and then in five years maybe people were going to really you know feel like it meant something. I want history to redeem us in the end, any problems we’ve had now, people will understand where we fit in today. But the bottom line is, Columbia wanted to take it from here to here, and it was a question of, is me sitting down with my current manager, asking me if this is what I want to do with the rest of my life. If you sign to a major label, you’re signing your life away. And you’re either all in or it’s nothing. So we picked a major label because they had the most to prove because they’re not cool, they want so badly to be cool, they want so badly to have young bands that are cool. And XL was amazing, to this day, I love that label so much. But they’re too cool. We’re not that cool yet. I wanted a label that was going to really try hard.

You’re the coolest band on the label.
They had signed MGMT and that had nothing to do with why we did it, because we just don’t want to be an MGMT at all. We don’t want to be fashion icons. I don’t want to look like we’re trying to be cool and I think they’re a good band, but it was just who had faith in us and who was going to take it to the next level and as a songwriter I decided I wanted to be a songwriter and this project was the vessel and it was exciting and people were responding and that’s it. It’s just the scariest decision ever and sometimes I’m like oh my god. Eventually we’re going to be pushing Top 40, they’re pushing Top 40 in the fall and it’s insane.

How are they going to be getting Top 40?
When I say Top 40 I mean they are going to be pushing it hard. “Little Secrets” is going to be our big single. I didn’t want it to be “Sleepyhead." It’s a huge commitment and when I say Top 40 I mean like, it’s a major label they’re going to make the most out of it. That’s it. I could not even say that they were going to push Top 40 and you could assume they were going to anyway.

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