WTF with Macedonia?!

The Phoenix on NPR this afternoon

“Battling Scientology” Follow-Up

12 Comments

• Joshua said:

  Well, if this is the change that your Barack Obama promisses to the world, the outrageous racist names for whole nations, then fuck him and his hypocrisy. I say go McCain and screw the liberal two-faced demagogues. This is unbeliveable - the vocabulary you use for Albanians and Macedonians are almost exactly the same that all anti-Americans use for USA. But thanx for the eye-opening critique and making it easy for us to understand who really supports Barak Husein Obama.

  October 27, 2008 4:11 PM

• a True Macedonian said:

  Macedonians are typically against Obama for his overt pandering to the Greek lobby.  

  Obama's ill advised sponsorship of Senate Resolution 300, which is blatantly anti-Macedonia and supports the racist Greek Megali idea, is the main reason for Macedonians supporting McCain.

  Obama is merely like every other politician who makes election promises he doesn't intend to keep.  So much for change, huh?

  October 27, 2008 4:29 PM

• Savvas Tzionis said:

  My fellow neighbour's from the North, you and your 'country' are 2 of the only successes of the Communist era.

  One is the development of Trotskyite "Endless Revolution" that the NeoCons have adopted.

  Second is the 'creation' of a fake nation.

  No wonder the Bush regime and FYROM are such good buddies.

  Both dealing with 'realities' they have made up.

  October 27, 2008 6:59 PM

• Macedonian said:

  Those who don't even know who they are, so called again with MANY names, like; Hellene...Greeks...European/Ethiopians....etc, are so desperate again and again!!  They are using any and every dirty tricks to support their candidate of the "same race" (as they call him) to make him wins. According to them with the celebration made in “classic Greek tradition” he’s been already Hellenised and with it, they’ve “sealed his religion to”. Latest propaganda they spread around is through some British tabloid "Sun", were they claim "Nostradamus's prediction" of Obama's win!!??  HA, it can't be more desperate than that!  But hey, do they know ANY better then making stories based on air and more air!! “Balloon” is ready to blow any time now!

  October 27, 2008 9:06 PM

• liberty said:

  Maybee one day Greece will live up to its reputation of democracy, but then again maybe NOT!

  Just another Greek Myth.

  Macedonia and Macedonian Americans are "for" the war on terror, and supportive of the US. The only thing Greek Americans are "for" is making money selling crappy food at NJ Dinners and then sending the money back home later to condem the American way. Hippocrits!

  October 27, 2008 9:13 PM

• Democracy? said:

  Ofcoure Macedonians are not for Obama, his main man, Liden is peing paid off by the greek diaspora.

  Is that all it takes ti win US favour, bribary?

  October 28, 2008 1:19 AM

• George said:

  Great article Clif and thanks for the link to "If the World Could Vote" website.  Funny stuff.

  October 28, 2008 4:18 AM

• MACEDONIAN said:

  FUCK ALL THE GREEKS, THERE ARE A FUCKED NATION !!!

  AND FASCHIST !!!!

  October 28, 2008 8:00 AM

• liberty said:

  Most Macedonian Americans have voted for the Republican party before this election. Many are well to familiar with the system their parents came from and where raised to admire this great nation of ours.

  I personally want to see smaller goverment. When I hear spread the wealth, I think of small American businessmen spreading there wealth amoung other Americans buying goods and services. I would never imagine the government taking that task on. Sounds like socialism to me!

  If Obama is so popular overseas, why not leave us and run for presedent of the EU or some other place.

  GOD BLESS AMERICA

  and Freedom to Macedonians in Greece is long overdue!!!!!!!!!

  October 29, 2008 12:08 AM

• a macedonian beliver said:

  God will punish the evil greeks for their wickedness, murders, lies and stealing. They started to use the name Macedonia just after the Rebublic of Macedonia become independant. The name of Macedonia and the macedonian laguage was forbidden till 1991. When they saw that Macedonia will become indipendent state they got afraid that the truth will come out and their sins of their forefathers will come to light.They made the ones  who spoke in Greece in the region of ( northen Greece) - Egean Macedonia drink oil ricinous ( against constipation) oil and they have put the macedonians in jail and beat them and forced to speak , took their land killed them .They are fashist nothing more .and learn greek after the greek invasion in 1912.So they are afraid the the truth about Macedonia will come in the light.The greek state invaded and took a part of Macedonia in 1912 and systematicly molesting and kicking out the macedonians from then since. Thay have change the names of the cities into greek and changed the names of the macedonian into greek .Put in jail and raped murderd and brain washed the macedonian kids in greece. Is that not called sins( amartia)The estates and the land they took and stole from the Macedonians costs more then several billons of euros. So now they will conffes they have done sureluy not. That is why they want us to change the name. SO there will be no proof that ever lived macedonians there but there was always greeks. I lie. NO they want to oppress and shut the mouth of the remaining of the macedonians who they did not manage to submitt and turn them into greeks.

   What is Europe doing . SOme are silent and some are hypocritlical and are joining in the sins of the greek people. Like France. Becouse France was involved and give a blessing to the separation of the Macedoina into three parts Greece,Serbia and Bulgaria. And now sold weapens to Greece . Yes that is called coruption and how can a public leader how gets drunk publicly can lead the french People.We cry for justice.

    Even Alexandar the great conqured the greek cities and becouse he liked and spread the greek culture does not proof that he was a greek. I like the americans so that does not make me american doesn it?  The ancient macedonians had their seperate culture and seperate lagnugae and alpabet that the greeks have not a clue about it. They were a seperate nation , culture and laguage that a huge number is still used in the nowadays macedonian laguage. Yes there is slavic words and is a mixed language but check the roseta stone which is the thrid langage on the inscription if not the ancient macedonian.The ancient greeks considered the ancient macedonians barbarians-not greeks .more then 150 word from the stone tablet is used in the modern macedonian and the greeks dont understand them.So now the greeks claim that they are macedonians. That is a fabricated lie. when you go in the world how do you proclam yourselfs makedones i elines. what is the first word that you speak ? Of course Eimeis eimaste eliness. See by your own words you are speaking what is the truth . You will never be macedonians. Becouse you forced the realy macedonians to become greeks and you commited a genocide to the macedonians. And there is a question where did go the anicient macedonians when the the macedonians fought with Rome? All killed. No the history says they mixed with the Scitians with the Slavs and lived with them.So Macedonia has a long historic continuity even till today. Yes Greeks had influence on Macedonian kindom but so as all other nations on other nations  in the world .

    Metaninoite O Eliness apo megala ammartia sas

  And they dare to call themselves belivers.

  Dont the greek nationalstic ortodox priest never teach you that you should love your naibours.

    Or have not thay red to you that true christians are known to be disciples of Christ by the love they have for one another.

    The truth is when the people are worsiping idols and icons they are worshiping not GOd but wood , iron and stone.

    God is going to judge every nation that does not follow his comandments.

   ANd the weapons of the greek army will not help you

   Blessed is the nation who God is The LORD .

   Stop oppressing the Macedonians .return what you have stolen. Ask forgivness from God and forgivness from the macedonians. Becouse the macedonias are crying against your sins to God.

  WE had enough from your threats and insults and oprression.God is going to punish you if you do not repent. O Theos tha sas dosi megali thimoria an den metanoite.

    Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord

  the people he chose for his inheritance

   From heaven the LORD looks down and see the all mankind

   from his dwelling place he wathces all wholive on earth he who fomrs the hearts of all who considres evertying they do

  No king is saved by the size of his army

  no warrior escapes by his great strength

  A horse is avain hope for deliverance

  despite all its great strenght it cannot save

  But the eyes of the LORD are on those who fear him on those whose hope is in his unfailing love  to deliver them from death and keep the m alive in famine. Psalm 33 from verse 12 to 19

     Naci Germany tried to kill all the jews and you know what was the result afterwords.

   Oh you truth loving greeks and goodfearing elines. Rise against the the brainwashing that the greek fashistic minds are doing against the peace loving nations and minorities that live in Greece.My God bless all the the good greeks and those who know who Jesus is and his love for each nations and each man.God is the God of Justice and his kindom will not will be for ever.

   And people from all nations and tongues will be in his kingdom including macedonians and greeks.

    may God bless Macedonia and Greece and all of his people.

       As God help the macedonian call for justice and help when he sent his apostole Paul to Macedonia he will help the macedonians again.

   Glory be to GOd of Israel. Glory be to HIs Messiah the Jesus Christ the Savour of all the nations in the world.

   Macedonia to the Macedonians.

   You will never destroy the macedonians

    you will never destroy the macedonian language

    and you will never destroy the macedonian ethnos and culture becouse God is on the side of the righoutes not on the side of the sinners. God is a GOd of justice and on the last day he will judge the nations. Stop being a stubborn and arrongant goats Oh  you evil greeks love peace and justice not haterid  and war.Mark my words.

  October 30, 2008 9:58 AM

• Savvas Tzionis said:

  Clif,

  What you have on your website is some of the more ridiculous members of this so-called Macedonian community.

  Now, tell me, who is being unreasonable in this dispute?

  Savvas

  October 30, 2008 8:11 PM

• Gjore said:

  Savvas, the world isn't blind. This is not 1913. The skeletons you got in the closet will soon come out and the world will know why you are doing this to us.

  You call us "the so-called Macedonian community". The genocide you did to my people from 1913 to 1948 and the ethnocide which is continuing to the present day would make even Hitler proud. I mean, he killed Jews, but he didn't deny them their identity. He didn't send them to camps just because they spoke their native language. This is in living memory, you can't hide it.

  I can say, without a doubt that the Greeks are the most fanatical, racist people on this planet. The only fault we have is the misfortune that we live next to you. We were in your way of creating "Great Greece" (what an oxymoron), so you had to wipe us out. Well, some of us are still here.

  Greek democracy? What a joke.

  November 1, 2008 5:17 PM

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