• sam said:

  i like parks 1 and 2

  but not 3

  September 17, 2008 1:10 PM

• Matt said:

  The best part about a park like choice 3 is that there is room to add features in the future like banks to curbs and quarterpipes around the edges.  I think it has space for the organic (skater driven) growth that keeps skating fresh.  Bring on the crop circles.

  September 17, 2008 2:26 PM

• sam said:

  park 3 is hard for both bikers and skateboarders

  to use numbers 1 and 2 have a good place to lern

  i messed up on voting so i accdentally said park

  3 instead of 1 so plese change a vote from 3 to 1

  plese and thank you.

  September 17, 2008 2:46 PM

• sam said:

  yes but couldent you add on to park 1 or 2 in the future?

  September 17, 2008 2:47 PM

• sam said:

  yo but in park 3 the rails are all dounward

  and there hard to do. flat rails are easier in park 1 i like # 1

  September 17, 2008 2:51 PM

• Chris said:

  I like one and two.  I am not much of a street skater so three would be good if they had vert oriented things

  September 17, 2008 2:58 PM

• Sharky said:

  If they put some kind of cover over these, it would extend the usability by months each year.

  September 17, 2008 2:59 PM

• sam said:

  i really like the mini-ramp in 1

  September 17, 2008 3:19 PM

• Tom said:

  Don't worry too much about particular rails or small details at this point. We are really only laying out the footprint and getting a reaction to the obstacles as a whole, how they flow and the levels of difficulty. Also how bikes and skaters think they are going to coexist in the park is key too. Keep the comments coming.

  -tom

  September 17, 2008 3:27 PM

• Tommy DO said:

  Oh Dang Yeah!  Dig the "krop circles" man, biuld it and we will come!  True the City is getting it right...reef the beef, then grip it and rip it!

  September 17, 2008 3:40 PM

• Rideme Taildrag said:

  #3#3#3#3#3#3#3#3

  Niccce!

  September 17, 2008 3:44 PM

• Greg said:

  park 1 is the one i would love!!!!

  2 is good

  but not 3 its just not as good as the others

  September 17, 2008 5:15 PM

• Borat said:

  if your going to appeal to bikers your going to have to put some jumps in there.

  tabletops? spines? halfpipe?

  i like #3

  September 17, 2008 5:17 PM

• jack said:

  i like #1 for scooters i can't do much on #3

  September 17, 2008 6:30 PM

• Robbie said:

  number 3 fosho its a street skaters dream (or biker.. i geuss)

  September 17, 2008 6:33 PM

• Corey said:

  1 and 3 is sick

  September 17, 2008 6:53 PM

• sam said:

  1 baby

  vote #1!!!

  September 17, 2008 7:04 PM

• E Room said:

  THREE is the place to BE!!

  September 17, 2008 7:34 PM

• steve said:

  Damn son. park 3 is so dope. deff. park three man.

  September 17, 2008 7:36 PM

• christian said:

  THREEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  September 17, 2008 7:46 PM

• frog said:

  1 rules

  u no it

  September 17, 2008 7:48 PM

• paul said:

  in liners love 1 and 2

  September 17, 2008 7:49 PM

• Athen said:

  VOTE FOR PARK 3!!!! its by far the best one

  September 17, 2008 7:59 PM

• rick said:

  3 is lame!!! number 1

  September 17, 2008 8:13 PM

• Mike said:

  In other place (The Who Blog), people have stated that they want a park with legit "street" skating. Now that there are three parks to look at and think about, many people are leaning towards 1 and 2. These parks seems very cookie-cutter, back-and-forth parks. 3, I think, offers what most people are looking for in a skate-plaza type park while still offering something for people that want to skate bowls.

  And as for making things that are "easy to skate"...will this actually help people progress or just make them stagnate? Look at how kids are skating all those crazy Dreamland parks. At one time people thought they were too much. But they have clearly shaped a new generation of skateboarders that are amazing (see And Now).

  September 17, 2008 8:14 PM

• greg said:

  in-lineing rules #1 is the way to go

  September 17, 2008 8:54 PM

• the bomb said:

  1 will have the fun

  September 17, 2008 8:56 PM

• Roc-Money said:

  i dont believe park 3 would fit into the space well and seems like it would be harder to make, theres alot of open space and alot of stairsets and such that would get boring real fast. mini ramps are a must, also. i thought it was the best at first, but then i look at it theres not much to it, we have these street spots here in portland. design one has tons of options wotn be to boring the brick owould give it a good street feel but it would suck for skaters

  September 17, 2008 9:06 PM

• Jordan said:

  PARK 3. ADD A FLATBAR/BOX AND A PYRAMID AND ITS PERFECT

  September 17, 2008 9:41 PM

• lucas said:

  yo, 3 is the best cuz im street mostly and theres room for vert if u realy need it and the bowl is so legit so theres realy no vert problem and flat bars are easily added but down rails are much funner, 3 jus looks lik its got flow for sum good runs we need a skate plaza style and this is as close it gets.

  September 17, 2008 10:02 PM

• Mamma Dukes said:

  probably number 3 but they all look good to me as long as theres gonna be a skate park

  September 17, 2008 10:08 PM

• james hodgdon-------chris matthews said:

  Is Portland trying to build an elaborate piece of landscaping? It seems that, with all of the BS that is going on with building this skatepark. Dozens upon dozens of towns, small cities, and communities have been doing it for years........Why cant P-Land get it together?? Has anyone seen the Concrete Deciples site?? We might be a bit older and a bit opinionated but, we have skated MANY great spots and there is a certain amount of "flow " that a good park needs to make it fun for everyone. None of the plans for the new Portland park seem to offer that (in design). I think the people involved should take a look around a bit and see how well some other parks are doing with their designs. There are a lot options and there IS a good medium between a "tech street course" to having a sick 11' RH kidney. Please research this and make this park fun for all.  

  C & J

  September 17, 2008 10:25 PM

• wenis said:

  skate park number three is the best... plus i am not "a pussy that loves the weiner"

  September 17, 2008 10:56 PM

• Eli said:

  So from the time the site selection was finalized, a close variation of design 3 had been in my mind for this location.period. that being said, it's up to the collective US, so flex the vote. this has been a VERY long and drawn out process.

  personally i was so happy when tom put this one out there.

  be clear that as tom mentioned, these are general layout designs. many of the elements are interchangeable... once a general design has been selected, it will get some tweeking (probably adding stuff or if need be taking things way for better flow) and then hopefully out to bid, provided that we raise the $ this winter.

  BUY A BRICK!

  September 18, 2008 12:24 PM

• mckae curran said:

  man i want three cuz theres three stair sets and 4 grass gaps an ddeffinatly keep the bowl. because its a clover bowl and not that many parks have a clover bowl in maine so please please.

  September 18, 2008 12:28 PM

• Jericho said:

  #1 is a great place to be but I don't know how to skate but I can bike I want to learn though #3 looks bigger and better, I cant do any tricks though, it  would be fun just to ride around and try some new things out. I say maybe #3 because well it's cool!!!!

  September 18, 2008 12:37 PM

• Aaron said:

  all three are F%#K weak You need a bigger bowl w/humps,drops,and alot more curves look at skate parks out in northwest or as close as stamford ct that park kicks some hardcore s@#t

  September 18, 2008 3:57 PM

• RIDE207 SKATERRR said:

  i like park three cuz it has some gnar gnar sets and handrails aswell as curbs and the gna har har bowl...YEAH I WANT NUMBA 3!!!!!!

  September 18, 2008 5:33 PM

• Jay said:

  Skatepark 3 is the one to build.I would like to see a 3ft or 4ft mini ramp halfpipe that is easy to skate rather than a 5ft or 6ft halfpipe.also like a snakerun path that you could just curve ride down all the way would be really fun too!The idea is to make the whole park flow with lots of curves, rounded imbankments,bumps,pools, that you can just ride around in and have fun.

  September 18, 2008 5:56 PM

• Legend said:

  Park is so DANK! I cant wait to rip the rails and chase the gypsies

  September 18, 2008 6:06 PM

• J said:

  Park # 3 is the BEST

  September 18, 2008 6:12 PM

• Matt said:

  These designs are weak. I agree, the park needs to flow better, and have more interesting shit to do. 3 is the best, but there needs to be a snake run type thing like the sick park in lewiston has. now that park is fun. in fact, go to the lewiston park and rip some inspiration from it.

  September 18, 2008 8:03 PM

• Cory said:

  Park 3 gets my vote.  Maybe some more transitions like a snake run and a mini (3-4 ft.)  Regardless of what happens PLEASE AVOID USING BRICK!!!  Frost heaves, small wheels, and chipped bricks are going to get people hurt if brick is used and brick isn't going to last as long as concrete.  Also grass is nice but it takes up space that could otherwise be used for skate surface like hips and spines.

  September 18, 2008 8:50 PM

• Brian said:

  I like Park 2

  September 18, 2008 10:10 PM

• Frank the mutha truckin tank said:

  My vote is for park number three. just put a copy of the box from westbrook into the flat area of park #3 and its the illest of them all

  September 19, 2008 12:47 AM

• frank the tank again said:

  Dont make a transition park like lewiston! what you should really do is exactly copy some real spots from philidelphia, boston, new york, jersy, LA, and san fransisco, and put all the spots in one place. that would be aweosme

  September 19, 2008 12:53 AM

• PunkMonk said:

  So far #1 seems to have the most diverse options for actually being skated on.  #3 has the pool labeled as "optional"? Does that mean it's not a sure thing or requiring extra money?  Without that #3 is a big footprint will little in the way of obstacles.

  Still, why can't New England ever seem to pull from successful design features seen further west?  Our parks never seem to compare.

  September 19, 2008 8:27 AM

• Tom said:

  After reading all of the comments I really want to address PunkMonk's question regarding the design, the pool and the lack of Western influence. It all comes down to one thing- Money. First off, thank you for at least posting intelligently.

  Yes, the pool is optional due to funding.

  For the record I am in total agreement that many, many parks from other areas of the country could and should provide a great deal of input for our park but the simple fact remains that EVERY part of our country looks at the PNW with envy. They have incredibly open-minded cities, a huge talent base of local builders, more open land and incredibly easy procurement (bidding) laws which enable municipal construction projects to pass through local and state governments with relative ease. This is most certainly NOT the case around here. We do not have the local talent, the easy bid laws and open space and frankly the Cities just cannot spend the money that it would take to be competetive with Oregon and others areas.

  That being said, even if all of the above reasons didn't satisfy we have a budget that simply could not build one of those parks under any circumstances. We are trying to provide as large of a footprint as possible while using relatively easy and simple designs which will enable the City to use local contractors rather than bringing in specialty firms from "away". Remember, the reason the PNW has many of the parks they do is because that's where a great deal of the builders are and it isn't cheap getting them here.

  Having a park which would mirror the parks everyone is mentioning would cost upwards of $40 and even $50 per square foot. Quick math shows that would bring a little over 5,000 square feet of skatepark to Portland for the hopeful budget of $250,000. Someone mentioned that Bristol, Ct was building a park that we should consider... great, it cost $782,000 so someone better get fundraising.

  In short, these are trying times, money is tight and everyone is working HARD to get a skatepark in Portland Maine. If you want to help, we are listening. If you want to help fundraise? GREAT!!

  -tom

  September 19, 2008 1:14 PM

• lobmob said:

  if u vote for 3 then i wil donate 1 buck to the town

  September 19, 2008 3:49 PM

• Brian said:

  Hopeful budget of $250,000? According to a quick internet search (so I might be off) but I believe that is what the Lewiston park cost. And wasn't that built by Sloppy Sam out of RI? Is Portland trying to keep it more "local" than that?

  Building "easy and simple" designs...isn't there a fear that will lead to a park that isn't used? Like Brunswick? Or a park that will be used for a short amount of time and then forgotten? Didn't this happen at Hyde Park in Boston before skateboarders started pouring their own concrete there illegally?  

  I would just hate to see yet another town waste money on a Scituate type park that will be forgotten about the day after the opening.

  September 19, 2008 4:46 PM

• Gabriella (laughattack95@gmail.com) said:

  love them all!!!!but i think number 3 would be da best!!!!XD im 13 and my younger sister and brother love to skate...i occasionaly do....but im sure they would love it if i brought them....!!!

  September 19, 2008 5:21 PM

• NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS said:

  all i gotta say is park 3 everyone is going to get bored of reeeeeeeeal fast way to many useless space and we chould have way better, all there is is stars and couple ledges, shitty.

  September 19, 2008 5:52 PM

• Tom said:

  Brian,

  Yes, it is my understanding that Lewi was built for around $260,000 but I don't think it's a stretch to say that the cost of EVERYTHING has gone up 20% or more and I don't think anyone, including sam, would sign up for that job for under $320,000 (or more) today let alone next spring or further in to the future. We need to be very conservative or this thing will never get built as too many projects like the Charles River job spend years chasing their fundraising tail, watching costs go up and income stay the same. If this project takes 12-14 months to fund this thing could cost another 20-25% on top of what we are planning now. But again, if everyone wants 1/3 or 1/2 the budget spent on a pool then that's the opinion that needs to be voiced. No one is saying what is and what is not going to be built, these desgins simply reflect the loudest opinions voiced at all of the meetings, just like in Hyde Park, Mass. There is no arguing that the largest number of skaters want urban and are afraid of or can't skate transition and this is reflected in the designs popping up all over the country.

  I personlly don't see Brunwick or Scituate in any of these designs but that's just me. As far as Boston, forums like this did not happen there and a conservative city who feared everything imposed rules which dictated the skatepark. Had the complaints which came after the fact been vocalized BEFORE the park was built, or during the design phase, things would have gone very differently. Instead, too many people sat back and let the parents and Mayors office take the lead and that's what they ended up with. Now, everyone complains but it's too late.

  I'm happy to discuss this project all the way to the final meeting so let's get this out in the open.

  -tom

  September 19, 2008 6:33 PM

• Alex said:

  I like the first park design, but I am torn on the idea of skating on bricks.  Is there even a proper way to lay bricks seamlessly at a skatepark?

  In my opinion, pools are a waste of time and money.   Let's just get this thing built and worry about the pool later.  

  The crop circle design is a cool concept, but...handrails are not easy things to skate (unless you're Jaime Thomas) and when I am at a park I don't like to feel intimidated.

  I like where this is all going, and am proud to see these designs.  We just need to work out all the kinks to make the best park possible, and people are never going to agree completely.

  My vote is for design one, but only if the brick is smooth.  

  September 20, 2008 8:27 PM

• rocco said:

  we could all settle for the park one, just not made of bricks and we are all happy

  September 21, 2008 12:28 AM

• Ben Dover said:

  yeah dude a box jump or a flyout would be nice

  not to mention a spine or 2

  that aside i think i like design one the best but what sucks is i live way down in boston so i'll have to find a way to get up there if they finish

  September 21, 2008 8:47 AM

• jeeves2008 said:

  As a photographer, I think that Park 1 is ideal.

  September 21, 2008 1:23 PM

• no one said:

  this is so stupid, through the whole meetings people say we are getting a park thats pretty much designed by bikers and the shitty skate one is gonna get elected which is complete bullshit it was all bikers at the meeting and skaters get whats best for them, lame.

  September 21, 2008 7:26 PM

• stevenowitz said:

  design 3 is very original, has big shit and little jibs, plus its got tranny, flat banks and ledges so everyone can get down! the only thing i don't like seeing in a park are stair sets cause its a waste of space. euros are a better use of space in a park, and more fun. stairs are for climbing. i really can't complain though because it's been too long without any kind of park here in the city and Tom designs and builds good stuff so props to him for that! that 3-hip pool alone would keep me stoked! there seems to be a good mix of elemets in #3 for the dudes that like to blast airs and for those that hang out on the coping. also, just like to say thanks to Tom and the whole skaepark crew for listening to bmx riders and even offering to build proper dirt jumps. that is rare and really awesome!

  September 22, 2008 11:06 AM

• bderosia said:

  Tom

  I'm glad you are responding to some of these posts. It's good to see involvement from everyone.

  While I would agree that you are correct in saying that you don't see Brunswick or Scituate in these designs, you do make the statement that you are coming up with simple designs that can be contracted out to local builders. I'm not aware of any dedicated cement skatepark builders in the area which leads me to believe that generic cement workers and brick-layers would be used. While I in no way mean to take anything away from the skill of these people, it is my thought that people that don't skateboard (or bike) know of our needs and what to pay attention to. That is the parallel I was trying to draw with Scituate, as it is my understanding that they were a driveway company that saw a chance to make some money off skateboarding.

  Can I as if, when all is said and done and the votes are counted and a final design has come about, will the general public (and by that I mean the skateboarders and bikers of this town) have any say in who gets the contract to build it? Will that step also be open for conversation?

  September 23, 2008 5:19 PM

• Tomnoble said:

  Your question is spot on but let me explain the situation, both good and bad-  The good is that part of my job is to carefully detail the plans so that if ANYTHING is lost in the 'translation', meaning that what's built is different than what's in the plans, it comes out. We have succesfully done this before and I have no concern that we can do it here. There are a lot of qualified contractors who will do a great job with the park if it comes down to it. In short, the park will be EXACTLY what we design when it hits the ground. Bridges and other complicated construction projects are succesfully built every day by firms who have never built a similar project before. The reason this is possible is proper plans and engineering. And yes, the more basic designs employed are allowing more park to be built by limiting the necessity for more expensive builders.

  The bad is that the City will have to put this out to bid and yes, there is a chance that a less-than-reputable contractor might take a stab at it but it is very unlikely that they would be able to pull the bid from the bigger guys. The plans will be incredibly detailed and it will be made very clear that proper care needs to be given to ensure that they are followed to the T. Prequalification of bidders will ensure that only those companies with proper experience can submit bids and many local contractors will not have those qualifications, but the better ones will. If a skatepark-specific contractor wins the bid it is probable that a great deal of the job including survey, excavation, paving, landscaping and some of the concrete work will all be subbed out to locals keeping more of the money in the local economy. This scenario happens every day across the country and I know of 6 complicated skateparks right now where the contractor has never built a park before but the park will be perfect. 90% of the guys on the site every day do not skate and never will. They have no idea what they're building but hey have a great set of plans to follow.

  I hope this makes sense. We will not let this park go out to just anyone but at the same time procurement laws do dictate a great deal of projects like this. To answer your question whether or not the bikers and skaters will have a say in who bulids the park, the answer is probably no. By the time the park goes to bid our job will be mostly done so stay vocal now.

  Tom

  September 23, 2008 7:17 PM

• votiVe said:

  The photos in the paper phoenix don't match the park #'s for 1 and 2!! they're switched! (Design one has no halfpipe.)

  That said, I want to like park3 for it's reality streets approach, but i just can't see skating it for long. What about dirt and gravel from the edges? Will bikers ride around on the lawn parts?

  Park1 is all concrete, ouch. It's a little like skating on a 2-way street, no room for flow and variety. Bowl looks nice tho.

  Park2 gives a good flow for practice of street tricks, has a halfpipe and areas for people to do their own thing (without getting in the way of the lines). True it has wood elements that can break down. However I think that adds to the feel of a good park and you can change them when they get tired, unlike a concrete park. I vote for park2.

  Question: Will the city make reasonably fast repairs, or will we all be stuck with a park no one can use due lack of upkeep?

  September 24, 2008 1:45 PM

• Chris M said:

  Tom,

  Good to hear your responses. There IS alot of money, design, and opinion juggling that goes on with any new skatepark...and I think the serious skaters (and other riders) know this. I am sure you will put the best interest of ALL levels of riders into consideration while chosing the final design for the new park. I personaly think a nice ramp would get alot of use.....it seemed to on Marginal Way. And with the tight budget... would it be out of the question to have a bit more sk8lite involved?

  Thanks,

  Chris M    

  September 24, 2008 8:16 PM

• Tomnoble said:

  Chris,

  Having more Skatelite involved is not out of the question at all. The mini is a must and I will work to ensure that it makes the final list. But also please realize that the final decision is not mine, I am simply part of the voting process just like you, other skaters and the rest of the committee. I have been careful to leave my thoughts on the fringe and let people voice their opinions and express their concerns. Sure, some of the comments here don't warrant defense but comments like yours show the City that there are concerned, inteligent skaters out there who do care and truly want a great park.

  That said, please continue to comment and make your concerns known, this design is far from final and this process is not over.

  -tom

  September 25, 2008 11:11 AM

• Sharky said:

  Glad to hear a design's been chosen. Just a couple questions: any chance of adding a halfpipe to design 3? And given our weather, any possibility of adding cover over any of the areas?

  Let's get rolling!

  October 1, 2008 2:54 PM

• Mike G. said:

  Design 3 is the way to go. 1 and 2 are stock and at least design 3 has more of a street influence. I would personally like to see this park resemble more of a natural street plaza than a skatepark. Roll Pulaski Park and EMB into one and we got something special going. There doesn't need to be a bowl or a mini-ramp or the standard quarterpipes and bank ramps, check out Lewiston and Bath and if your feeling that. This is Portland, lets get some ledges, manual pads, flat gaps and jersey barriers up in that thing and build it ALL out of brick if you want. STREET PLAZA!!!

  October 2, 2008 12:15 PM

• Marcus said:

  Hello,

  I read all the posts above. I will try to suggest improvements for the design I like and describe what I do not like.

  First of all, I am a skateboarder since 1987 and have a great respect for BMX as well. I think a lot of the animosity we experience can be cured with a good park design.

  It's important that the park is no so open concept that a runaway board gets under bike wheels. It's also important that there be enough separate areas to avoid collisions. Large open areas have a way of getting cluttered up with the less experienced kids that don't understand the 'lines' in a park. A large area of flat is not what I go to a park for. There's plenty of tennis and basketball courts and street around for that.

  'Flow' should exists in a few areas so several people can let loose at once. I enjoy the Lewiston Park because of it's great flow but it is a collision course if you run it through on a busy day.

  With that said: Here's my take on the current designs offered:

  I don't like #1. A mini is always a staple feature but near a square bowl, its shape is redundant.

  I don't see a need for the covered shelters. They simply attract homeless folks and other behavior. A completely covered park would be useful... but an umbrella in the corner is pointless IMO. Lots of open space here. I expect a lot of crashing and spoiled approaches.

  Not a huge fan of #2 but it's better. I'd swap the bank features at the opposite end of the bowl, make the center portion flat to create a cooler gap. The figure 8 bowl is cool but many will miss the mini ramp shape. The overall flow is just back and forth and pretty stock.

  So me, I'm a fan of concept #3. In theory anyhow. I like the high ground in the middle and three or four possible directions. The clover bowl is cool IMO because it essentially provides both a left and right hand kidney as well as the mini-ramp shape and hips. I'd drop the park benches in favor of concrete benches (with and without backs) and probably kill the shelter too. Might be nice to add in some more trannies like a spine and a box would do well for the bikers. Is that supposed to have plush green grass and pretty landscaping? I'm not sure that's such a great idea. I like how the overall shape is 'crop-circle-ish'. It's creative and creativity has always been a big driver of our sports. Take a look at the outer circle at the bottom of the stairs. Seems to me you could carry a lot of speed from the center, take a couple of optional routes past a couple of rails and stairs to get there. Then it's sort of a dead end. Why not grow a quarter bowl there that tapers to the ground at both sides.

  After you've just put down a nice line of tricks, whip around or turn back rather than heading home.

  This off the top of my head. Perhaps it will at least spark some additional, constructive commentary.

  October 2, 2008 1:43 PM

• Marcus said:

  PS: I grew up skating the Brooklyn Banks in Manhattan. That brick surface has been skated so hard for almost 30 years and it is fast and has great pop. It's way smoother than Forum ever was and WAYYY smoother than Windham and Westbrook. The slight thwack thwack thwack you hear when you go over it is not at all a hinderance... it even adds something "street" to the experience. If the builders can accomplish that surface, I am all about it.

  THanks!

  _MJ

  October 2, 2008 1:48 PM

• Erich said:

  if the city wants to keep skateboarders off the city streets, it is only logical that they would build a street park, or better yet a skate plaza with ledges manual pads in general things you see skateboarders skating in the city, the designers should sit down and watch some new york or any street vids and study the spots they skate, then use those ideas to design a park. No one wants to skate basicaly the same park you see everywhere thoughout the county, this is a chance to be creative a make something truely special, and original.

  October 3, 2008 11:10 AM

• Hojo said:

  Im totally with Mike G with his thoughts on the park design. Last thing Portland needs is another prefab un-original looking skatepark! A natural "street plaza" style skate park would be the best for all levels of experience and would get the most love from skaters! Keep it real!

  October 3, 2008 4:07 PM

• Tony le said:

  Ive been skating for nearly half my life now and honestly skateboarding is all i know. ive seen things come and go in skateboarding. and ive come to realize that skateboarders are the same in the sence that we are all striving for something new and original. we need something to test our creativity. what im getting at is that park 1 and 2 can be found at any city or town across the world. skateboarding started in the streets and it only makes sence to have some thing resemble it. with park three kids could learn tricks get comfortable enough and then take it to the streets. another added bonus is that sence skateboarder rollerbladers bikers or whatever you may do, flock to new things and  the city of portland could stand to actually profit from people coming just to skate the park. Park 3 is an all around better. pick park 1 and 2 is just like anyother park you go to, im not saying they arent great designs, i just think theyre a dime a dozen and after a couples people will loss interest. give  the skater a chance to test there creativity, and make something worth having. park 3 easily the best pick

  October 4, 2008 11:06 AM

• George W. Bush said:

  2! All the way

  October 5, 2008 6:38 PM

• dennis said:

  #3 is where its at real street design is where its at!

  October 6, 2008 1:55 PM

• skateordie said:

  i like design it l it has good street and looks like it would flow the bole is kinda plane, design 2 is ok to but its to squished toghter and you would be running into people a lot

  October 16, 2008 10:13 AM

• Alessa said:

  I like number one the best becuase there is enough room to just sk8 around and then use the rails and the bowl is big enough for a lot of people

  November 10, 2008 5:03 PM

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