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McCain's Racist Answer?

I'll admit I didn't fully appreciate this at first, but two wiser observers in my immediate circle did, and upon review it seems pretty clear-cut.

The first question in last night's debate came from an older white gentleman named Alan Shaffer, who asked:

With the economy on the downturn and retired and older citizens and workers losing their incomes, what's the fastest, most positive solution to bail these people out of the economic ruin?

The second question came from a younger black gentleman name Oliver Clark, who asked:

Well, Senators, through this economic crisis, most of the people that I know have had a difficult time. And through this bailout package, I was wondering what it is that's going to actually help those people out.

The two questions are almost identical -- in fact, it's hard to understand why Brokaw picked both of them. Notice that neither one mentioned anything about home ownership, mortgages, or anything along those lines.

In his answer to Alan, the older white guy, McCain introduced his new mortgage buyout plan like this:

You know that home values of retirees continues to decline and people are no longer able to afford their mortgage payments. As president of the United States, Alan, I would order the secretary of the treasury to immediately buy up the bad home loan mortgages in America and renegotiate at the new value of those homes -- at the diminished value of those homes and let people be able to make those -- be able to make those payments and stay in their homes. (my emphasis)

McCain here is saying that people like Alan are at risk of losing their homes through no fault of their own, but simply because of the devaluation of their property, and the decline in the value of their investments.

McCain likewise turned young black Oliver's question toward the new mortgage buyout proposal, but like this:

Well, thank you, Oliver, and that's an excellent question... one of the real catalysts, really the match that lit this fire was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I'll bet you, you may never even have heard of them before this crisis. But you know, they're the ones that, with the encouragement of Sen. Obama and his cronies and his friends in Washington, that went out and made all these risky loans, gave them to people that could never afford to pay back.... we're going to have to go out into the housing market and we're going to have to buy up these bad loans and we're going to have to stabilize home values, and that way, Americans, like Alan, can realize the American dream and stay in their home. (my emphases)

Here, McCain is using the currently fashionable right-wing talking point that the entire crisis stems from loans made to poor, primarily minority home buyers who "could never afford to pay back" those loans in the first place -- who have now made innocent victims of people like Alan and his friends, who "are no longer able to afford" their payments.

It's worth mentioning that McCain appears to be looking directly at Oliver both when he says "you may never have heard of" Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and when he refers to "Americans, like Alan" trying to stay in their homes.

It certainly seems as though McCain made grossly different assumptions about the two questioners, casting the black guy and his friends as the problem, and the white guy and his friends as the victims. And again, there is little or nothing in the questions themselves about the men's own housing situations.

  • Ryan said:

    That's a very interesting look into John McCain's subconscious.

    October 8, 2008 8:39 AM
  • Michael Pahre said:

    Wow, good catch.

    October 8, 2008 10:05 AM
  • todd said:

    i agree with ryan

    October 8, 2008 10:22 AM
  • That Guy said:

    If you look at the body language it is also clear that McCain is uncomfortable being so close to a young black man. He got very close to Alan when he was speaking to him, but was extremely guarded when talking to Oliver.

    October 8, 2008 10:23 AM
  • Jesse said:

    Let's not forget McCain's racist attempt to dehumanize Obama by referring to him as, "that one."

    October 8, 2008 10:25 AM
  • rob said:

    this doesnt seem to be getting much attention, but it should. i couldnt beleive my ears and eyes when i heard it. i totally agree with "that guy"...body language, and comment were from someone who is at best subconciously racist.

    October 8, 2008 11:31 AM
  • Jens said:

    There's merit in your point.  However, the first question referred to "retired and older citizens".  

    Look, we know that if McCain wins, it will be in part because of overt racists and individuals who fear people of color at some level.  It doesn't really help Obama to turn the overt discussion to race.  Let it motivate you, but let's keep the focus on the economy.

    New idea for fundraising:

    my.barackobama.com/.../Jens

    October 8, 2008 11:52 AM
  • Bob Neer said:

    A terrifying trip into the maddening recesses of McCain's mind. Brave work, David!

    October 8, 2008 2:48 PM
  • LorenzoJennifer said:

    Kudos, kiddo!  Thanks for the transcript. If by  their words shall we know them, then by their tone of voice shall we know them even better.  Listened to the second debate on radio as I had the first.  McCain, moreso than Obama, affectualizes his voice in giving emotional content to his spoken words.  With only the radio on, hard to guess the race of any speaker. McCain sounded much tougher and more critical with the second questioner (Oliver) than with the first (Alan).  John McCain grew up in the racially segregated South.  A son of a four star Navy admiral, he spent his formative years in Virginia (more than likely on a military base) and graduated Annapolis in 1958. The year prior,  1957, saw the public schools in Little Rock, Arkansas become the first racially de-segregated schools in the South in which McCain was raised. Civil Rights and equal opportunity did not become federal laws until the mid-1960s. There were many years in which ours was a racially segregated  society, like the South in which McCain was raised.  Racially segregated restaurants, hotels, stores, buses, even public drinking fountains were found everywhere in the South in which McCain was raised.  Being friends with persons of another color was not tolerated and the air was rife with racial friction in the South in which McCain was raised.  Race riots happened often in the South in which McCain was raised. McCain's a U S Senator from Arizona, a state whose 2005 population of an estimated 6.1 million is 89% White, 5% Native American, 4% Black, 2% Asian and less than 1% Hawaiian.  The 2008 Republican National Convention delegate demographic: 93% White, 5% Latin American, 2% Black American.

    October 8, 2008 4:50 PM
  • A proud AMERICAN! said:

    I think this was a great piece. Have I always been proud of America when we enslaved millions of Africans or stole land from Indians or refused to enter World War II until it hit home? Of COurse not! And anyone who says they were are RIDICULOUS. I applaud John McCain for serving our country but that alone should not win ANYONE the presidency. I live in the southern states and this type of backhanded racism is EVERYWHERE. You would think that someone running for president would be smart enough NOT to wear his feelings on his sleeve. I am proud of the good that we as Americans have done and will continue to do. My father, my brother and my boyfriend have all served in the military and they all agree it is time for the troops to COME HOME! I am annoyed with conservative news media who try to paint Barack as unfit. Okay enough ranting....BaRack the vote!

    October 8, 2008 6:27 PM
  • LorenzoJennifer said:

    I referenced the South in my earlier piece as the subject was John McCain and he was raised there.  The Northerner practices a much more subtle form of racism unlike the open forms of racism that were found in the old South. Many people are PC - Politically Correct. Yet, under that smooth social sheen one often finds a residual racism and persistent prejudice. The South has changed dramatically since the beginnings of the Civil Rights Era in the 1950s that produced landmark legislation in the 1960s. May well be easier to deal with a Ku Klux Klansman burning a cross outside a house than cope with someone who is socially correct and quite polite  but, underneath it all, keeps you an arm's length away because (s)he really can't stand you.

    October 8, 2008 9:08 PM
  • P. said:

    Michelle Obama addressed the "that one" commment yesterday on <i>The Daily Show</i>, and she stated that she and Barack Obama did not interpret it as a racist comment, so I will defer to them.

    However, even I was taken aback by McCain's response to Oliver Clark, particularly with the whole "you may never even have heard of [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]" (though even that is open to interpretation, for this might have been a means of saying, "I'm sure you just paid for your home without government assistance"). Nonetheless, by reasserting Alan into his answer, he seeemingly disregarded the person to whom he was supposed to be directly addressing. Was this because Oliver asked a variation of the same question, or was this because he thinks that Oliver (or, at least Oliver's people) are part of the problem?

    October 9, 2008 11:51 AM
  • Billie said:

    I definitely caught that one.

    October 9, 2008 1:59 PM
  • Peter said:

    Are you kidding me???????  This is what you spend your time doing, trying desperately to find racism in nuance?  Move on!  John McCain is not a racist.  He did not make a racist comment consciously or subconsciously.  My god!  No matter what he does or what he says you are going to draw some tenuous connection so you can condemn him as a racist.    If American and its leaders are so racist that no black person can get a fair shake then why the hell stay here?  Renounce your citizenship and move to a Country where you will get the treatment you feel entitled to.  I presume that the author along with those commenting are all black because blacks are the only ones that think like this.  Not all fortunately.

    I’m sure when McCain said “new immigration goals getting excellent reception” that you see that as further evidence of his racism because of what the first letter of each word spells.  

    October 9, 2008 8:00 PM
  • Michael Pahre said:

    Turns out Oliver, the African-American questioner, didn't take too kindly to McCain's comment about how he probably hadn't ever heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac until recently:

    firstread.msnbc.msn.com/.../1523335.aspx

    "Well Senator, I actually did. I like to think of myself as a fairly intelligent person. I have a bachelor degree in Political Science from Tennessee State, so I try to keep myself up to date with current affairs. I have a Master degree in Legal Studies from Southern Illinois University, a few years in law school, and I am currently pursuing a Master in Public Administration from the University of Memphis. In defense of the Senator from Arizona I would say he is an older guy, and may have made an underestimation of my age. Honest mistake. However, it could be because I am a young African-American male. Whatever the case may be it was somewhat condescending regardless of my age to make an assumption regarding whether I was knowledgeable about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

    October 9, 2008 8:10 PM

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